I had a double take at those fuel costs and thought been a few years since I've seen it that cheap. I was looking to get another LPG (friend has the 04 td6 and its so noisy in ccomparison) but as I now do about 16 miles a day I may as well go for the standard v8 petrol. Haven't worked out the exact figures but I'd imagine there is little difference.

Really need to go and get a test drive in them both. But the gm transmission in the td6 is a bit of a deal breaker looking like it will definitely be the v8 but no harm in getting a shot in both before making a final decision

Whilst the gearbox can be an issue in the td6, the zf box in the V8 is not exactly bulletproof. Plus the petrol units do seem to suffer from overheating issues and dodgy PCV hoses etc. the td6 lump I recon is a very reliable unit and pretty good when remapped. I'm a bit biased now, mainly due to the fact that if I travel somewhere I don't have to save up for the fuel to come back

Seriously though, the petrols suit the RR better, and are smoother and quieter, but the td6 isn't a bad engine...... Have a drive of a few. Try a remapped td6 and a petrol with LPG.......

Don't notice mines a diesel once you are rolling along....... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Agree with Mjd above, the petrols are smoother, but there are fixes available for the Gm box, a recon is around 2k and they can be fitted with an uprated torque converter and different valve block made by sonax which should make them much more robust.

The bmw Diesel engine is a decent robust engine, and there are plenty around, if you budget to have to swap the tc and gearbox at some point, then you should be set.

Bear in mind these were 60-80k motors when new so unless you are handy with the spammers servicing and running costs can build up, and they weigh the best part of 2 3/4 tonnes, so also expect to have to replace suspension components and brakes as they wear out, which they will start too on older cars.

As has been said drive a few and you will get an idea of what they should be like and what a bad one feels like. Personally I would try to avoid too much bolt on aftermarket stuff, avoid big non standard wheels an buy the most unmolested one you can find. You can always add stuff later if that is your cup of tea. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Agreed all transmission have their horror stories the. zf box in my bmw is a is a cracking box my old 3 series had 140k box was smooth as silk and had never been serviced, yet if you search the forums you will find plenty horror stories. I do believe that's the case with everything after all people don't generally post on the forums about how well there car is going it's always just the problems that they will post up.

Also I really like the 3l bmw engine in the td6 have driven a few 530d great cars. However I would avoid the gm box at all cost just heard to many bad stories and not just on forums. Two people I know have had x5 in the past 03 and 54 both transmissions failed between 50 - 60K miles.

I just feel at least with the zf you have half a chance especially with lower miles but with the gm transmission basically it's guaranteed to go pop! I remember reading up on them and most of the time the shifts would be rough and people would get the box serviced then it would completely fail a short time later. Putting fresh atf fluid in just seemed to finish the box.

Going back to MJD's point above ref petrol vs diesel - there are significant differences between the two 4.4 V8's available, not least of which is that they have different gearboxes . . .

I wouldn't get too hung up on mpg figures, as both repairs and routine maintenance costs can sometimes dwarf the cost of fuel . . . . . .

 Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

I was thinking of the BMW unit. Not read many Horror stories about the Jag setup......

They are rarer, but I understand they are very nice....... Not as good when used with LPG I did hear though.

But I've had neither, so my points only based on observations.....

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Roger that ^ - 10k might get an AJV8 . . . . .

 Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

I greatly prefer the Jaguar engines, but if you're thinking of adding LPG, get a BMW one. Cheaper car. Seems to do better with the LPG.

Just a quick question on the transmission i read that the 4.4 had the 5 speed zf 5hp24 up until 2003 then it changed to the 6 speed zf 6hp26 . is this right ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_6HP26_transmission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_5HP_transmission

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^^ Mark - no, that's incorrect. The gearbox / engine combinations are as per my original post near the start of this thread.
ie: 6 speed ZF on petrol engined cars from 06 MY . . .

 Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

Ahh ok . Hmm well after doing a little more research I am once again stuck between the td6 and 4.4. the 4.4 transmission obviously has it problems as well. To be honest I probably wouldn't feel comfortable buying a ffrr Whether it be the td6 or the v8 without at least 2k sitting spare just in case the gearbox went bang. However by what I have read it seems that although they both have transmission issues with the td6 it's a certainty it will fail but with the 4.4 you have half a chance of getting some life out it.

Whilst I understand the comments coming about not worth the paper it's written on etc, I got 12 months warranty with mine when I got it from a local car dealer 3 years ago. It's been renewed every year and is reputed to cover mechanical failures etc. I got cover from Nov 2013 to Nov 2015 for £425. It was previously that for the 12 months before.

I know there will be some arguments should my gearbox give up the ghost, but on paper, it should be at least partly covered.

My point being, you could get a warranty with your car, and be given the chance to extend it when it expires.... Mines a 2003 with 129k on now......

They have, off the top of my head, covered rear wiper motor, 2 rear door latches, the viscous coupling on the fan, the fuel pump under the sill, the pixel fix to the instrument cluster, FSR replacement, And prob a few other failures.

Not the be all and end all I know, but may help you sleep a bit better......

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport