Happy with what we have is perhaps what I meant without comment on the rationale of others

pld118 wrote:

If you've got a 4.2, surely the prospect of paying in the region of £10 to £15k more for a 5.0 isn't justifiable (not a statement but a question)?1

Drive a 5.0 and a 4.2 back to back if you can. When I changed my 2006 4.2 for a 2010 5.0 I was amazed at how different they were. It is not just the power it is the suspension and brakes as well. It just feels like a much more nimble car.

I did exactly the same as 5.0 above and can only agree 100%. The 4.2 had a great supercharger noise and was fun to drive. But with the 5.0 (2010 onwards) it would seem JLR finally got round to sorting most (not all!) of the niggles of earlier models. It is definitely more planted in terms of the suspension and the cabin is even more classy with full leather headlining and full I-Phone integration, cooled seats etc etc. But at the end of the day, it is the engine that is the significant difference. When you really plant it from the lights, it feels like the car wants to rip the tyres off, there is so much grunt and also, although the exhaust is overly muffled, it still sounds far better than the 4.2.

That said, as an introduction to the RR supercharged world, the 4.2 is a great car. And if the budget won't stretch to a 5.0, a 4.2 is still a brilliant choice.

Just make sure you buy shares in BP  SDV8 AB MY 2019
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What's this full iPhone integration you speak of? As in just for the hands free or you can play music and media thru it to the front screen? FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
Mantec Sump Guard, Rigid Load liner, MY10 BT upgrade.

Not tried the MP4 thing, but you can get to the full I-Tunes music library as well as the phonebook. I've got the ViseeO tune2air plugged into the integration port so the I-Phone connects via bluetooth. SDV8 AB MY 2019
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4.2 S/C VSE MY 2006 - Gone

I did think they didn't have that as standard  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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They kinda do as standard, but you need to be wired  SDV8 AB MY 2019
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This is interesting Andy B.

What niggles did they sort out from the 4.2 that the 5.0 didn't suffer?

Our 4.2 has cooled seats though?

I think you're the first person I can recall saying the 5.0 sounds better than the 4.2 (not that the sound matters anyway over the obvious performance improvement I suppose?)?

Genuine, non provocative reply.

I had serious integration problems with the 4.2 regarding bluetooth and the telephone system. Probably fixed by a bluetooth upgrade. There is no integration with an I-Phone for music on a 4.2 as far as I am aware SDV8 AB MY 2019
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^ not quite "integrated" but an Alpine EZI-Dab will allow you to connect you I-device through the AUX in socket and control it via the control module of the DAB unit. Somewhat cheaper than changing to a 5.0  Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

Our integration re telephone connectivity/ directories is excellent and that's with the iPhone, Samsung smartphones and different model Nokia Lumia phones. I was told ours had the module upgraded at the dealer though.

I'm not talking about music tho as were still using the wireless and CD's...

Bellini,

I see you are in Berks – did Tom do your pulley etc by any chance? Presume you mean upper pulley?

When you say subtle remap what do you mean? Did you get it on the dyno for before and after?

I have only had my FF for a couple of months and had to have the 4.2 as I was coming from an xjr. So far same engine but very different animal (as to be expected) but I have a charger with an uprated pulley knocking about and I am thinking about putting it on the FF.

I might look at the exhaust first as restricted flow hurts the 4.2 and there could be more benefit there first but just a hunch.

I think I might give it a few months just so I get to feel the change so to speak

Did your remap help with mpg at all (not that we by v8’s for economy but every little helps).

Apols if thread derail.

check out this thread: http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic14188....ger+pulley for more information on the pulley install and this one for the remap: http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic19069....harged+map

@RDSR:

Yes, Tom did it. No dyno but just his considered opinion from gains on the others he's done with a few dyno'd in the past.

Not sure of the map 'intensity', but there's nothing harsh in it, so I'd say it was relatively mild and one that enhanced the pulley mod rather than making a monster. He gave me a money-back pledge if I didn't want the remap following the work, so nothing was lost.

The exhaust was a consideration, but I do love the restrained note as it perfectly suits the FF. Anything louder would sound gorgeous but detract from the FF's character, in my view.

MPG? Hard to say. I don't think so, in truth. But then, I view my own SC as reasonably economical for what it is. That said, I'm using the additional torque a hell of a lot and don't need anywhere near as much throttle at low speeds as I once did. She trickles along quite happily and pickup from rest is significantly improved. The changes haven't really altered the top-end much, but I rarely go there anyway. Si. <This is my name.

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