Hi guys

Today I viewed a 2003 4.4 V8 Vogue with a facelift conversion and HST rear bumper (loved the drive and the looks for that matter) few issues I felt and just looking to know if these are common:-

Black and foundry interior trim generally worn, I've seen this on a few other examples though Is this common to all early examples?

The digital read outs in the dash pod had missing pixels, again is this common? And is it an easy fix?

The drivers seat bolster appeared fairly soft and had areas of general ware, again noted on other models I've viewed. Common feature?

The analogue clock wasn't operational is this an easy fix?

Is there anything else I should be on the look out for on the 4.4 V8 petrol?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Andy

Last edited by andy180 on 29th May 2013 11:20pm. Edited 1 time in total

Wow that seems very cheap...

There is some where that does the dash repairs IIRC,

The interior foundray parts do wear but getting them all painted up is worth the money.

Drivers seat squad is about £40 IIRC and about the same for an upholsterer to replace.

The clock is tied in with the system IIRC so could be an easy or nightmare fix but who looks at it anyway so low down and away from the road.. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Just realised the link was wrong. This one seems more recent.

http://www.speedofixer.co.uk/rangeroverdials.html

Here you go. Plenty on here used him, seems very good as far as I can tell. Graham

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Thanks for the links

Well the annologue clock seemed to begin working upon the engine starting and reset itself is this correct?

Seems cheap? I thought it seemed about the right price? Given the facelift conversion shouldn't really add much value?

Is there anything is mechanically I should look for?

Hi,

Hopefully this might be of some use (it is in the 'General' Section:

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic18648.html

Much of the interior trim can be upgraded easily from PowerfulUK, as per the link below.

http://www.powerfuluk.com/?gclid=CMm0-quPvbcCFabLtAodwk8ALA Si. <This is my name.

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andy180 wrote:

Thanks for the links

Well the annologue clock seemed to begin working upon the engine starting and reset itself is this correct?

Seems cheap? I thought it seemed about the right price? Given the facelift conversion shouldn't really add much value?

Is there anything is mechanically I should look for?

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all common faults, all not the end of the world in terms of cost, all fixable

Like anything, a car is only worth what someone will pay for it.. and the market is stronger for some cars than others. An element of 'snobbery' might exist in the RR L322 arena just as it does in other retail markets (or maybe it's just budget enforced common sense).

The DNA of the L322 does lend itself to owner's who want and/ or can afford to revise its look to replicate the most recent L322 facelifts (some owners aspire to that look, others don't, but there seems to be a strong market for both looks).

Here are 5 examples that have ‘the look’ currently on the market:

2004 - TD6/ 2012 MY SC Facelift Conversion, 89k miles = £17,495 (Gary Elliot Prestige Cars)

2010 TDV8, 84k miles = £34,000 (on Autotrader)

2011 TDV8, 32k miles = £47,000 (on Autotrader)

2011 SC, 39k miles = £49,000 (on Autotrader)

2010 SC, 51k miles = £49,975 (on Autotrader)

So based on these 5 examples... for the more ‘up to date revised look' you can pay anything between £17.5k to £34k to £50k for such a car (and the £17.5k car will doubtless be finished to perfection)... or you can upgrade your existing RR by paying a reputable specialist in the region of £4,000 for the last of the L322 look.

I can imagine that less people might be able to afford £34k or £50k for a car as opposed to one at £17.5k (and the thing with these cars is, the majority of people would never know the difference).

As the RR buyer's market seems to be heavily populated by realistic enthusiasts, discounting ‘lesser marques’, I can imagine that a good chunk of the RR customer base would be able and/ or prepared to pay a few thousand pounds more for a properly upgraded L322.

Some people might even be able to afford £50k for a car but would consider that the arithmetic of upgrading an older car makes common sense, maybe even more now that no matter how much you spend for an L322, it will always be the 'older car' to the L405... opinons vary

andy180 wrote:

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Haw can the facelift conversion not add value? Why then do I do conversions for motor traders often... Of corse it adds value else this wouldn't be an £8k car with an £8k upgrade (if the wheels are real)

Craig

Its an interesting point you put across. Personally I've never sold a modified car for more than its 'standard' counterpart, I think realistically why would it be worth much more? Its the same car but with some external changes.... the same as a moded vauxhall astra really.

Strange how those selling facelift conversions believe they add value.... no?

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So then the same would apply to Overfinch then no... "Ahh" I here you cry "but that's different" no it is still a phonominon called Range Rover...

Try looking on Gary Elliot's web site and look at price difference...

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Guys I viewed the car again with a mechanic mate (with over 30 years experience) he thought it to be a good car, but there was a slight knock from the engine upon start up from the V8 and it seemed to be only from one 'side' of the engine. Outwith that he felt the gear box was fine, suspension and ride fine etc. Question is does the knock from the engine sound like something serious (he didn't think so but I prefer to be cautious

andy180 wrote:

Guys I viewed the car again with a mechanic mate (with over 30 years experience) he thought it to be a good car, but there was a slight knock from the engine upon start up from the V8 and it seemed to be only from one 'side' of the engine

Get another mechanic ... A 4.4 with a knock is not a good buy

What's the likely issue with a knock?