I'm currently the owner of a RRS TDV8, but am in the process of "upgrading" to a FF. I've seen a car I quite like - a 3.6 TDV8 Vogue SE, however have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone on here can help with:

Do they come with a tow bar and electrics as standard ? If not, what should I be looking for to know whether this car has got the attachments as it didn't have an obvious tow bar fitting at the rear when I looked (at least not in the way my RRS does).

Secondly, it's a 56 plate car and has a BMW style key - when did they change to the current "flip" style key ? Can you upgrade to this new style of key ?

Finally, any hints/tips on what to look for on the car would be appreciated. Cosmetically, it's very clean and isn't showing its mileage at all, but it's the mechanicals/electrics I'm worrying about - don't want any nasty/expensive surprises

Cheers in advance

Richard

Welcome to the forum.

Tow bars and electrics are not standard, Though are often added. There are a couple of different types removable and not. Obviously the non removable ones will be obvious, but if you look at the middle under the rear bumper and see a square hole around 2" then you have the removable type bracket fitted, the tow bar is often stored in the right had boot recess.

If you havent got anything fitted, then it would be worth phoning LR customer services with your VIN they can email you the build sheet for it and you can see if it had the towbar pack.

There are after market tow bars that arent too expensive. But i would not risk using after market electronics.

I was under the impression that all tdv8's had the flip key but someone in the know could probably help more.

Have a look through the wiki, there is a wealth of info on there.

Good point on the VIN - I will get hold of that tomorrow and get the build sheet to see whether the tow bar and electrics have been fitted.

Be good to know whether it should have the flip key or not - as it is a 56 plate, 07 model I would have thought it should have done ?

Tow bar - Easy to fit an OEM bar and electrics, plug and play Don't get a quote from LR it's over £1k. If you can drive a screwdriver and socket set get 1 from: http://www.pfjones.co.uk Guys are brill. Used them a few times. If they only have the earlyier 1's NP if you have a grinder.

Key no idea, mine has the non flip.


BTW I'm selling my TDV8, but it's not an SE

Hmmm ... could be interested - can you pm me the details of your car ?

RT964 wrote:

Be good to know whether it should have the flip key or not - as it is a 56 plate, 07 model I would have thought it should have done ?

RT PM sent.

Do I sniff a deal could be on the cards

I have an 07 plate Supercharged and that has the flip key. 
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nbunney wrote:

RT PM sent.

Do I sniff a deal could be on the cards

Thanks ... will take a look and let you know

TheAllSeeingPie wrote:

I have an 07 plate Supercharged and that has the flip key.

The tow bars are readily available from most local fitters,

The OEM bar is a westfalia, they come in different types and it works as follows

1. there is a tow bar frame which bolts to the car this has the square reciever hole in for the two types of bar it and the electrics mounted on it.
2. there are two types of bar which will then attach to this:

Detachable (the receiver for this bolts into the above frame and remains on the car and the detachable neck clicks into it.
Farmers hitch, basically a flange type bar (which is also removable but a bit more fiddly)

All of the parts are westfalia branded as landrover, for general use the detachable is best imho as it can be taken off and comes with a cubby to store it in in the boot floor, as mentioned the landrover electrics are DEFINITELY best to go for as they are basically a plug in module, though it needs coding to work fully. A local indy did mine for £20.

As said dont bother with a quote from LR as its extortionate, get a local specialist to do it or a local indy will bolt it on if you supply the parts.

As far as they key goes, mine is a 57 plate and it has the flip style keys, so looks like a crossover on an 07ish plate. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I have installed 2 lots of electrics TD6 and TDV8 and both have been plug and play.

There are 2 types of armatures, pre and post facelift. The differance is the exhaust mounts. You can fit a pre version onto a post, if you have access to a grinder

So can someone give me a ballpark figure for retro-fitting a towbar and electrics to a 56 plate facelift model ? Is it a DIY-able job or does it need a specialist to sort out ?

DIY defo about 3 hours max I would say

Price depends on:
fixed or detachable
13pin or 12N/S electrics

Just give PF Jones a ring and they will price up the option you decide on.