Hello

I need your advices and your recomendations please.

my Car is Range Rover 2004.

i want to replace the current halogen light by 6000K Xenon light for the high beam and the fog light.

is there any replacement plug and play free kits avialable in the market for Range Rover 2004?

is it error free , not causing or showing any error messages on the information panel.

also is it possible to replace the current low beam 4300K Bulb with 6000K Bulb without replacing the ballasts?

if not then also the complete low beam xenon system could be replaced with new 6000K system

Regards

Ahmed

You can replace the current 4300k bulb with a 6000k one without changing the ballast. Be advised that whilst the light looks better from the outside, when your driving, the output does appear whiter, but also slightly dimmer.

I searched ebay to get a set of philips ultrinon bulbs as if you search the web, you see there is a good amount of talk about quality of bulbs, and how the glass portions of the bulbs are held and supported. the ultinon bulbs were one of the few premium brand that made a 6000k bulb

link is here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-new-Philip...583wt_1156

AS for fitting HID to the other bulbs. Yes, should be able to be done without too much fuss. I suppose its less important in terms of bulb as they are secondary to the main light. Search for can bus error free HID kits that are the same bulb type as what ou want to replace. V8 or else ...

I have cheap 6000k bulbs sourced from eBay for about £18 delivered..I have had these for over a year and find the light whighter ans brighter..you must get the bulbs with the little metal tabs at the base of the filament otherwise they will not fit and you will break the black holder thingy like i did....there's a thread on the forum some where.. ... - .- -.




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Dear Fisha and Dear Stan

Thank you so much for your valued advices.

i was really in need to them.

alahmed said:
i want to replace the current halogen light by 6000K Xenon light for the high beam and the fog light.

if you are talking about the high beam then you can not just swap them out with a set of xenon bulbs as you will need the ballast kits to go with them... V8 facelift Range Rover Autobiography 22" wheels.
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to clarify,
high/main beams are halogen and can be replaced by 'whiter' h7 halogen bulbs or as daveo has done , a xenon/hid kit [dave's thread re this on forum]
low/dipped beams which are 4300k hid bulbs can be replaced by 'whiter' hid 5000k or 6000k bulbs which are available off ebay for as little as about £20 for the pair.
fogs are halogen h7 bulbs which can be replaced by 'whiter' h7 halogen bulbs or a xenon/hid kit [re dave ]
the high/main and fogs can also be replaced by canbus error free led/smd bulbs but in high/main and fog they will not give a 'beam' light.. ... - .- -.




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Just to add to the confusion, the "low/dipped beams" ie hid become main beams when main beam is selected, working in conjunction with the "main" beam H7.

Thank you guys

based on Fisha advise i have bought the 6000K Philips Bulbs from the seller on the link he provided.

So thanks Fisha.

Regarding the High Beam and the Fog light , as i know they are H7 and i want to install a complete 6000K Xenon kit instead of the current Halogen system.

So thanks to Daveo ans Stan and Nicedayforit for clarifying the issue to me.


Note: i have seen Daveo Project , and i have to say its fantastic thing Man , i really like it , specially the Angel Eyes.

So is there any Angel eyes could be installed on my 2004 Range Rover

i have received an advise from a technician here to install 75 wat 6000K for the high beam instead of 35 wat.

So what do you think about installing that 75 wat kit.

BTW : i have found on Ebay 100 wat kit.


also i need your advise if i should chose a specific brand , because i am really confused after founding on Ebay hundreds of HID Xenon kit brands as the one on the next link.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-Philips-...1c284293eb

or this here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-GENUINE-Phil...3a78df42d4

or this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-XENON-FULL-HI...46025a7eee



and many other Chinese Brands cheaper than the three i have mentioned.





please advise.

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I'd personally advise against anything higher than a 55w system. Reason being that the cars are typically designed for 50/55W halogen bulbs. HID's were initially reduced to 35W systems as they produced so much more light than halogen for a given wattage ( so they draw less power than halogen ) Even going to a 55W HID system will be a big boost over standard HID.

Going to 100W will double the energy draw through the wiring, which wasn't designed for it ... and almost triple the draw compared to a 35W original. Potential result? over heating wires, melting insulation, shorting, fire, smoke .... Its not a risk I would take on the RR personally.

Its something I'm considering doing for the full beam soon, and I plan on just getting a cheap china one based on a search for "HID 6000k H7 canbus" when searching ebay. Probably go for a 55W one as thats what the old H7 bulb will be running at .. so similar power draw. V8 or else ...

Fisha

based on the advise you have given before i bought two 6000K Philips bulbs to replace the current low beam 4300K bulbs.

and if upgrading the high beam and the fog light to 75 wat or 100 wat xenon might caused any harm to my car then i will follow your advise again and go to 55 wat which is the best choice based on your information.

Thanks

just an update

i bought the kit on the next link to replace the headlight

the reason i bought the mentioned Xenon kit first place was its 55 Wat similar to the current 55 Wat halogen, its error free and its plug & play.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55w-CANBUS-EXTRE...84bcfe01d7

unfortunately , i have cancelled the installation or returned back the original H7 halogen bulbs.

frist he tested the new kit with stand alone battery and they were working perfectly.

after installing the Error Free 55 Wat H7 Xenon kit on my car and after turning on the headlight , its was flashing , flickering.

according to the technician the power which is feeding the headlight is not enough to run the new xenon kit.

so he suggested to connected the kit to a relay and a direct line from the battery, which i knew it will caused an error message (Check Headlight Beam) ,



after doing that we have faced another problem.

when i use the stick of signal light to flash the headlight it works perfectly with no problem at all ,but i when use the main switch to turn on all the lights and then move forward the signal light stick to turn on the headlight , the relay starts producing a strange and loud sound (tik , tik , tik , tik). but not flickering as when connect them directly to headlight cable.

after experience all of that , i asked him to cancel the project and returned back everything as was before.

what was wrong , in the fact i do not know.

note:

i have also seen a very strange thing

inside the main light housing (low and high beam) , the internal cables plastic cover turns to small pieces ans starts falling (like ash) as soon as you try to move them or touch them( the technician replaced them all.
the only reason for that , is the high heat produced by the main light inside that closed light housing.

I think the problem is that the main H7 halogens for the main beam fill-in light aren't supplied with fully battery voltage - if you look at them they are quite yellow compared to what they should be - I found a reference somewhere that said they only got about 10 Volts. That would cause the issues with the Xenon replacements failing to stay ignited.

Thank you Simes

i think you are right and what you are saying is the truth.

which is supporting that is:

Xenen bulbs keep flickering when i turn on continuously the headlight.

while they are working with no problem when i use and keep pressing on the signal light stick.

so i think the headlight (high beam) is being powered by to Different sources.

first one is for continuously powering which is the weak voltage line.

the 2nd line or source for flashing the headlight which is normal (maybe flashing the drivers in front of you needs more power).

how to feed the Xenon kit with more power on Continuously operating mode without causing the Error message ( check headlight beam)?

i do not know!

I expect it could be done - but it would mean using a relay that understands CANBUS - I'd be inclined to use a normal relay and use NavCoder to tell the car not to check the Headlamp main beams.

on bmw's there is coding to increase the voltage to the angel eyes to make them brighter so with the range rover being 'nearly' the same i'm sure the 10volts main beams could have their power uprated somehow.. ... - .- -.




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