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tboner001

Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 691

2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Fuji White

BigJ wrote:
Japseroony wrote:
tboner001 wrote:
The 2010 onwards cars do have a facility i am told where the newer dealer readers / software can see downloads and uploads via the Eprom chip on the ECU

Hi, are you saying someone is tuning the new ECU's via OBD? If so can you point me in the right direction or let me know what tool they are using?

Thanks.

Me too! AFAIK Tricore Protected are impossible through OBD at present....

Yes correct but BMW one with very similar protection has finally been beaten i am told so holding my breath in hope

Far to many gone...

12th Apr 2011 4:30pm

stevecuk

Member Since: 17 Jan 2011
Location: London
Posts: 5

Japseroony wrote:
stevecuk wrote:
RRUK wrote:
Mention the forum when you go in, it's good for them to know we all communicate and its not just nerds on the tinterweb.

RRUK have you noticed any change in the flat spot when you initially push the accelerator, I was under the impression that a re-map would normally get rid of this?

I'm certainly considering the JE remap for my TDV8, and it would be so much sweeter to finally drive the Range without that huge flat-spot.

Regards,
Steve

Steve,

Try Bell Auto Services on 0871 2884656 and tell him Japseroony sent you from the site and he may do you a deal on a remap and or a switchable re-map.

His kit is really good and it can be done over the phone depending on what you want.

Japseroony, thanks for the thought, but I have made my mind up to go with JE, I've been thinking about it for quite a while and have considered most of the options from the other major remap companies, but the fact JE specialise in Land Rover products, and have remapped their own FFRR and used it for many thousands of miles,

and all of the good reports about JE from forum members makes you feel confident that the remap will not cause any issues in the future.

Regards,
Steve

13th Apr 2011 5:26am

Japseroony

Member Since: 18 Nov 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 369

2019 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Indus Silver

Steve,

No worries, don't think you will get better than BAS but each to their own "UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

13th Apr 2011 7:55pm

Alistair

Member Since: 11 Feb 2011
Location: Peterborough / Bordeaux / Andorra
Posts: 7921

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

Not enough back to back comparisons - that's the problem !

I had decided to go with JE, but they are only open 9-5 Mon-Fri in Coventry

BAS posts the unit out and you install yourself in about 20 mins - and you can restore back to original if needed & mine came with a 1 year warrany, so I went with that in the end.

I still have niggling doubts that JE would have given me more grunt, but I'll never know unless I decide to pay again.....

i like the fact that JE publish the power/torque graphs - no-one else does that.

13th Apr 2011 8:58pm

Japseroony

Member Since: 18 Nov 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 369

Alistair wrote:
Not enough back to back comparisons - that's the problem !

I had decided to go with JE, but they are only open 9-5 Mon-Fri in Coventry

BAS posts the unit out and you install yourself in about 20 mins - and you can restore back to original if needed & mine came with a 1 year warrany, so I went with that in the end.

I still have niggling doubts that JE would have given me more grunt, but I'll never know unless I decide to pay again.....

i like the fact that JE publish the power/torque graphs - no-one else does that.

Part of the problem with graphs and figures is that they only tell you facts about just that, who has the most power/torque at a certain point and not about drivability.

More grunt as you say is easily achieved but is the actual drive of the vehicle overall a good one?

As an example, take stage 1 & 2 on a Disco 2. Stage 1 gives you around 160bhp but stage 2 gives more like 185bhp, but the trouble is it only kicks in at the point you wish to change gear and offers very little low down grunt but a big kick just as you reach max revs etc!!

BAS clearly know what they are doing as they were the first to re-map the Defender TDCi and remove the speed limiter, first to re-map the Disco 4 by splitting the ECU and the first to offer a switchable re-map on the RRS, Disco3, Defender and FFRR etc etc.

Just some thoughts from someone that has some limited knowledge in re-mapping. "UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

13th Apr 2011 10:02pm

tboner001

Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 691

Think DMS who are very well known are right up there with proper mapping have been using them for years on all sorts of cars , never had any issues , but not as cheap as many and it often takes far longer than 60 mins as each map is done for each car by downloading looking at the data and installing a baseline then altering to suit that car and your requirements. Including Torque delimiters on the auto box etc. For example my 2009 TDV8 took over 3 hours at the house inc 3 test drives until they were satisfied with the car. Far to many gone...

14th Apr 2011 6:37am

just0007

Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: london
Posts: 56

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

It is booked for the remap tomorrow afternoon, I can't wait. I will let them kow about the forum and thanks for the advice. Only issue for me now is it is mainly my wife's car and I have been told not to do it. I am hoping she will believe the difference in power is due to super diesel in the tank.

24th May 2011 9:38pm

BigJ

Member Since: 16 Mar 2011
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 247

2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Stornoway Grey

tboner001 wrote:
Think DMS who are very well known are right up there with proper mapping have been using them for years on all sorts of cars , never had any issues , but not as cheap as many and it often takes far longer than 60 mins as each map is done for each car by downloading looking at the data and installing a baseline then altering to suit that car and your requirements. Including Torque delimiters on the auto box etc. For example my 2009 TDV8 took over 3 hours at the house inc 3 test drives until they were satisfied with the car.

It's the only way to map. Not this flash and forget bull... Used to have:
2005 FFRR 4.4 Vogue - BRC LPG Conversion & Remapped

Now have:
2008 SSRR 3.6 TDV8 - HSE and plenty of toys

25th May 2011 9:01am

just0007

Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: london
Posts: 56

Fantastic! All done car feels super, fun to drive up hills at speed!

26th May 2011 10:23pm

A1GSS

Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
Posts: 1973

How is it feeling now after a few months? What's the consumption settled down at? Graham

____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey

25th Sep 2011 6:15pm

just0007

Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: london
Posts: 56

Still feels great, I didn,t tell my local service department when the car went for new ball joints, when the car was brought round to me the chap was laughing at the way it pulled. It still goes back to land rover for servicing so the fact they noticed without being told is a good sign. With regards to mpg I am not the best person to ask as I tend to drive with my foot down all the time, around town it does about 18 and on the motorway it does a little better. As a comparison I also run a mercedes cls 320cdi with a brabus d6 chip, that is very quick and the mpg on both cars is very similar.

1st Oct 2011 8:03pm

balgaa

Member Since: 13 Jul 2011
Location: Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
Posts: 4

anyone know handheld ecu flash tool and upgrade file?

3rd Aug 2012 2:56pm

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no ... - .- -.

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3rd Aug 2012 2:57pm

smartymarti

Member Since: 01 Aug 2012
Location: Durham
Posts: 32

I remapped my tdv8 vogue goes like a bullet and gets 32 ish on a run all smooth with no issues very apply with it , only cost me £200 from a chap in Darlington

3rd Aug 2012 4:06pm

alanm_3

Member Since: 19 Feb 2011
Location: my House, unless Iâ€™m not at home, in which case Iâ€™m somewhere else.
Posts: 6719

2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Wow, you'll be telling us next you found the holy grail in your shed under an old blanket! Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

3rd Aug 2012 4:12pm

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