Hi all

Im a serial changer and I'm considering changing my 56 plate TDV8 Vogue for a 2009 BMW X6 35d in order to get a more sporty drive, better fuel economy and a franchise warranty (i have a good offer from a main dealer).

Understanding the bias towards FFRR on here i expect to be slated for it but i wonder if anyone has first hand experience of an X6 and if so what did they think?

Yes the RR is a great car but as i have found each of the 5 previous times they simply dont drive like i want from a car and i do a lot of country lane driving so tend to drive a bit more sporty that the FFRR would like. I find myself pushing on too often and the FFRR isnt meant to be driven that way, becoming obvious on the lanes at times

I want 4x4 size for comfort, don't like the Cayenne (well not always) and have owned X5, ML, RRS etc so the X6 is something different again. Yes its an acquired taste but with the right wheels, colour etc they can look quite nice IMHO. The 35d is quicker than all but the latest S/C FFRR and offers 34mpg according to the figures, i can only manage 23mpg from my remapped TDV8 and the difference is £200 per month in fuel since i use it for business but without a fuel card

If anyone here has owned the X6 what did you think, how was the reliability, build quality, drive etc.

Regarding the deal, the X6 doesn't have the very latest software update so my BB 9780 isn't compatible unless its updated but the dealer wants to charge £220 for the privilege, do i have any argument so insist they do the update before i sign the contract?. I have paid £500 to hold the car but haven't seen it yet, if i opted out will i get my money back?

Thanks in advance

Carl

No idea about the car but personally, I'd tell the dealer to do the upgrade or the deal's off. Graham

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Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
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Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey

Even after the deposit?. I want to use the argument that being an approved used BMW it should have all updates carried out as part of the pre sale check and guarantee. Its a Stratstone so to be expected really, should have waited on the deposit

I have just sold my RR Evoque and if it's sporty your after with RR quality then that's a better bet than any BMW IMO. If you have nothing nice to say,say nothing at all.

Hi RRV, i looked at the RR Evoque but the performance would be lacking with the smaller engines for what i want. I am hoping the X6 fits the bill in terms of sporty feel, performance, refinement and bulk all in one package.

The FFRR is almost as good as it gets in some aspects and i have had 6, perhaps its why i am a little bored now. I considered updates etc but dont see the point, i will get sick again a few months after that

what about a new X5 M50d ?  2002 td6 vogue, 06 supercharged facelift

Too pricey for me new, plus dont want the depreciation. The hit on the FFRR TDV8 has been massive as it is

If you see the car and decide not to proceed then I'd say you would get a full refund. If not contact your card issuer and do a chargeback.

The 35 engine is a peach. The x6 is marmite, so if you like this particular marmite go for it, I'm assuming you don't often have adult rear passengers.

Get the dealer to update the phone software. My god, the stuff the,y try to get away with, they really don't deserve custom at Stratstone! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

You can only get a refund on a deposit IF it has NOT passed 7 days and even then only IF you have NOT seen the car. If you have seen the car and placed the deposit then you won't get it back after 7 minutes let alone 7 days I'm afraid. If you have nothing nice to say,say nothing at all.

Only have adult passengers now and then so its a case of aslong as I can then that will suffice.

I'm a little 50/50 on the looks but think I'd prefer the X6 over a Cayenne and with the right wheels, in black and with privacy I really like the fat stance of it.

Ref the update, I made it quite clear I wouldn't pay the price he suggested to get them to do it and will see how stubborn he is with it tomorrow. I bought over the phone, haven't seen the car yet.

Its the colour combo I like, black with light leather anbd has the wheel upgrade just no factory privacy so £300 to have a tint added.

Deposit left on Saturday morning and have only seen photo's.

Another frustration was the request for £250 refundable deposit to do my reg transfer. Basically I pay to have it done then give them £250 whilst the transfer is in process and they will return it once its complete. I said no way !

£105 for a reg transfer - payable to the DVLA via a Land Rover dealer..... Land Rover Addict
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I'd say unless they buck up their ideas and look after you properly, or you love the car and have to have it, then get your deposit back. Once these things start off frustrating they very rarely turn out great.

I'd wait till you find the right car from the right dealer, and you feel in control and looked after! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

If you need sporty and big and more mpg why not get an a6 3.0TDi Quatrro Avant?? Lots of space, comfy enough for back lane hooning and much better MPG??

Or just get a fun car for whizzing round in and drive the FFRR like its meant to be , and waft along the roads in real comfort.......

If you can only get the same out of a TDV8 i get from a TD6 with some hooning then there is no way you will see that increased MPG from and X6.

Numbers on paper mean squat in this country. Looking at the ones for the states is better as they doa much more realistic tests but don't forget their MPG is different to ours but is usefull to compare the FF against an X6..

Also check Youtube for X6 vs Range Rover..... nuff said really!

If you want to hanker round corners at speed fit some 22" rims and road biased tyres and consider a suspension lowering session with a diagnostic machine.

Then maybe get some underbody protection as well as it will lower the CoG and also give better underfloor dynamics, as standard the RR/D4/RRS are rubbish in this area

Then get some Pagid Blue or Grey pads for up front and grooved and dimpled discs(dont go for drilled as they will eventually crack and prove to be a waste of money).

Just IMO of course but the X6 isnt worth it and if they are already trying to squeeze money out of you for software upgrades... Well pah to that idea i say! £700 would get you some decent 22"s or about 5 tanks of fuel nearly! FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Just my two pence worth, but if its enthusitic driving fun you want, and you want the cockpit size of a 4x4, why not try a 5 series BMW with a decent engine.

The BMWs are better balanced that the audi's for a sporty drive, but anything jacked up to 4x4 levels isn't going to be the same as a proper salon.

I actually quite like the x6, but see it a bit of a half way house.

Better still, swap your FFRR for an older one and buy something really quick as a second car - caterham anybody? __________________
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