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Dave ray



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver
Oil change for gear box

Hi first post on hear putting my 04 vogue v6td in for it's service this week would it be recommended that I change the oil in my gear box aswell it feels fine at the moment pulls nice and strong not sure if it's ever been done from the previous owner

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its debatable whether an oil change actually does any good or not...how many miles has the box done? if its going to fail then most go around 80/100k....personally, if its working ok i would leave it alone.. ... - .- -.




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Dave ray



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It's got a few on it 107k full main dealer history trying to find one with lower miles on but the ones I did see where not in the best condition but then I found mine high miles but looked after and a clean car

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there's loads of opinions re this on the forum dave, best have a read and get an informative view.. ... - .- -.




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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

If you do decide to change the oil and I personally would, you need to change the filter as well and then change the oil again in a couple of weeks.
When you have the sump off its worth looking for metal swarf etc in the bottom of the sump. No metal bits everything should be ok, lots of metal, not so good.
Also if you do do ahead and change the oil and filter find someone who has done it before or read up on the proceedure and supervise while it is being done.

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drain the sump, and refill with fresh ATF, run for 5-10 minutes and drain again, remove sump and change filter, refill with fresh ATF and if you are really keen you can drain and refill the sump for a third time

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ssgall



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Buckingham Blue

Bought my latest FF this time last year with 93K, changed the gearbox oil (oil was black). Gearbox has just failed at 96K. From everything I have read if the oil hasnt been changed at about 50K, when Landrover should have recommened changing it, its only a matter of time before failure, average seems to be around 100K. Opinion is divided on wether its a good thing or not to change once the motor has done, or approaches higher mileages. For what its worth I believe lubrication is good and would do the same again.
FYI my independant is currently changing the box and has put 2 recon units in, only to find faults when road testing! Waiting for No.3..... Big Cry 2003 Vogue TD6 - Adriatic Blue - 2010 Facelift & 2010 20" wheels
1996 90 Tdi soft top gone
2003 HSE TD6 gone
2005 RRS TDV6 HSE gone
2007 Vogue SE TDV8 gone

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letsavit2



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so you changed the oil and 3k later the box blew.....

Read that story so many times now that i'm well in the leave alone camp, not touching mine. 2004 black Vogue TD6

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Vogue



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yes, it does make you wonder if draining the oil empties the galleries, thus causing it to run momentarily dry - thus goosing the box a few miles later! maybe thats why LR say sealed for life...perhaps they knew there was an issue with draining and refilling. Afterall, its not in their or a LR main agents interest to skimp on servicing or do themselves out of service items by advising sealed for life without good reason...

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Vogue wrote:
yes, it does make you wonder if draining the oil empties the galleries, thus causing it to run momentarily dry...



Surely the damage would be done when it was first built and filled if that was the case

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it could depend on how its filled and primed at the factory, and if this specific process is repeated when the box is drained and filled.

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does anyone know how to check oil level in the gearbox AFTER its been changed ?

eg if it was changed with filters etc at the garage a couple of weeks ago

sorry this is on 4.4 V8 petrol 54 reg

thanks

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you fill up until it overflows.

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Cheers scarey simple as !

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"You fill it up until it overflows - at the right temperature" Thumbs Up

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