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Gremlin500



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How to: Retrofit Traffic Sign Recognition to Vogue spec L405

Before you start, visit the Wiki above and print off the WM sheets re “IMAGE PROCESSING CONTROL MODULE, REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION”.

(EDIT: Pages now reproduced below Very Happy )

You will need to source the correct IPMA/Camera unit for the upgrade, see below.

*** DISCONNECT THE VEHICLE BATTERY ***

Using plastic trim tools, prise down the lower camera housing behind the rear view mirror, there are 4 clips, it should pop off easily. Then using a small flat blade screwdriver prise open the 2 grey hinged metal clips holding the mirror, slide the mirror down & towards the screen to remove and unplug the grey plug to remove the mirror. Next prise down the fan housing, again it will pop off easily, unplug the green plug & remove the housing.
You will see the grey metal camera body, held in place by 4 clips, two front, and two (quite flimsy) clips at the rear, there are two metal prongs behind the camera (towards the screen) and two large pins locating the front corners L&R.
First, unplug the camera electrical plug, there is a release tab on TOP of the plug which is impossible to see, I used a small Allen key to pull down the tab, at the same time using a small trim tool in the back of the RH side of the plug to gently prise the plug out. Take care, many fine pins! Try not to angle the plug.
I then used two very small trim tools to hold open the 2 rear camera catches, whilst pushing the two front catch buttons upwards to release the camera; you may need to use a trim tool/screwdriver to get those 2 big front pins over the hooks both sides, they’re very tight, go carefully!
The camera will come loose all of a sudden, be ready to grab it.
Thankfully, installation of the new camera is much easier in reverse, making sure all the plugs and clips are properly latched, to avoid rattles.
*** RECONNECT BATTERY ***

I fitted the camera/IPMA unit "HPLA-19H406-Bx" marked "PREMIUM", in place of the unit "HPLA-19H406-Ax" "ENHANCED", and amended the CCF using the iiD BT G3 tool as follows:

EUCD-098 - Lane Departure Warning = LDW Fitted with Enable Menu & TSR Fitted with Overspeed
MultiCAN-498 LaneKeepAssistLKA = LKA Fitted
EUCD-026 Power Steering Type = Electric Power Steering with external angle and torque control = Fitted
Then run Routine: Service/Test>IPMA-Image Processing Module 'A'>Allow Central Data Configuration Learning.

System works 100% as it should, Menus are present and configurable for speed & sensitivity, system "sees" traffic signs and issues the appropriate warnings.

It’s important to get the right camera (IPMA Image Processing Module ‘A’)
(EU/UK market only)
All are marked “HPLA-19H406-**” but the last 2 (**) characters are significant:
The “-Ax” ENHANCED units only have LDW, but can be activated in the CCF for AHBA ((Auto High Beam Assist).
The “-Bx” PREMIUM units have the full LDW/AHBA/TSR with Overspeed warnings. The final character is the production series/ year of manufacture.

Its probably a good idea to replace with a camera from the same model year if possible, all cameras are clearly dated on the label. Thumbs Up “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?


Last edited by Gremlin500 on 29th Nov 2024 2:14pm. Edited 1 time in total

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Gremlin500



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Sorry, forgot to add, the L494 uses exactly the same cameras, so also a potential source.
Going rate on eBay is around £100, but I got mine under £50 when the seller suddenly halved the price and sent me an offer when it was in my “watch” list. Thumbs Up “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Very interesting Gremlin, thanks for putting together the write-up for the mod.

What advantage does it bring? Just the Speed signage reporting on the dash? You mention coding in LKA.

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LKA is activated as standard AFAIK on MY2017 Vogue models, not sure about other years, it may be present but not activated, hence to check the CCF settings for LKA and Steering type, to make sure the steering vibration/self steering for lane keep are available too. (Not sure if there is a 3rd even more basic camera without LKA, I mean what would the purpose of the cameras then be? Laughing )
The TSR activation setting in CCF can be selected in various modes, but I assume folks will want to activate all of them, i.e. TSR plus Overspeed Alert warnings with in-dash menu, and simply use the dash menu to select/deselect with a tick, rather than have to get out the GAP tool! Wink

If you don’t have the right hardware, you can still edit the CCF, and the in-dash menus may appear, but when you try to tick the selection boxes using the steering-wheel buttons, the tick will vanish almost immediately, this tells you that you have the wrong camera (IPMA) fitted. Thumbs Up “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Gremlin500 wrote:
Sorry, forgot to add, the L494 uses exactly the same cameras...


As does the Discovery5 (L462)

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Just had an email back from Patrick @GAP, they have now added my information above into their FAQ Thumbs Up “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Quick Question I have the auto high beam assist, but the camera seems to be in the centre of the screen in front of the mirror. I'd like to add the LKA And TSR, but I can't find a HPLA-19H406-Bx for a 2015 L405 closest is 2016.
Ive also noticed my screen has a black covering around the mirror surround, will this obscure the camera lenses.
so my question is does the additon of the LKA and TSR replace my existing camera? You've bought WHAT!!

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Hi Darren, I think if you don’t have Lane Keep Assist at minimum already, then this may not be possible.
Did you download the pages from the Wiki I mentioned above? These will help you recognise the hardware. Looking at the screen from outside the car, there should be TWO rectangular camera ports in the black area at the very top of the windscreen? (Ovbs, you need two cameras, one to look at each white road lane markings, left and right).

The “Image Processing Control Module” is a single cast metal housing containing BOTH cameras plus the electronics within, see pics:


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Above is the “Ax” (in this case AH) “ENHANCED” version with LKA only, for all features, you need the “Bx” version, marked “PREMIUM”. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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oh there's my issue I could find the pages to view on wiki You've bought WHAT!!

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Here you go:

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 “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Gremlin500



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Hi Darren, I hope that worked OK?
(I can’t see my own pictures in any posts, only the links, -is that the same for everyone?) Whistle “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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you had your 'bbcode' disabled...i've sorted it for you. ... - .- -.




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Never felt a thing! Rolling with laughter

Thanks Stan! Thumbs Up Bow down

Let’s hope Darren can suss it out now, actually those WM pages are dated 2016, which is what he has………… Whistle

EDIT: Sorry Darrens fullfat is 2015, but fingers crossed……. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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thanks Gremlin, i know now what im looking for and it makes so much more sense You've bought WHAT!!

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