I,m yet to see an electric car i would buy so yes all EVs. I dont buy into them at all. overfinch modified

Bet mine will go further on a charge and breakdown less than the new electric fatty


 Fuji White / Jet 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster

As long as LR don’t screw up the software, they should prove to be very reliable. The EV’s that don’t have any major software issues are proving to be very reliable and battery state of health is beating expectations too.

As for range, most heavy electric SUV’s are tending to average 2-2.5 miles per kw, so unless they put a massive battery you can forget 300 miles as a real world range. With a 100KW useable battery it’s going to be more like 200-250 miles.

As stated before both of these areas will improve dramatically over the next 10 years

The other problem it you should regularly charge current batteries to more than 80%, so let’s say you let it go down to 5%, that’s a usable range of 140-150 miles from a 100kwh battery!! That’s assuming you can get over 2miles/kwh which isn’t a certainty in a 3 tonne Range Rover with all the aerodynamic challenges it has.

I’m not dead against EVs, but the current battery and motor technology doesn’t make sense in this type of vehicle. I’m sure most on here will hate them, but makes much more sense when it something like a Model 3 which weighs 1.8 tonnes and will easily do 4.5 miles / kWh. So on a 5-80% charge, that’s 250 miles range.

The Hybrid makes much more sense to me. OK, there’s a weight penalty but you get a lot of the benefits of an EV (silent running around town, ability to significantly extend the range, low urban running costs etc) and a nice petrol 6 cylinder engine to listen to. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

The 80% rule is a bit of a myth. I always charge at home to 100% with no issues, and many do the same.

I get the only charging to 85-90% on a long journey on a DC charger, as it’s counter productive as the charging rate slows. So if the journey is long enough it makes sense to charge to 85-90% and then drive on to the next charger.

The way that most people drive their Range Rovers electric works well. There’s bags of torque at any speed, they’re quiet and relaxing to drive and the lower centre of gravity helps handling.

Ultimately though if you regularly tow, get a diesel. If you regularly do long distances and don’t want a diesel, get a hybrid. If you don’t do either of these that much get an EV. 😊

Are you sure it’s not the same sort of myth that surrounds running combustion engined cars in?!

You won’t notice any impact unless your EV has high miles or you can see the battery condition would you?

I can just see JLR putting the 80% ‘limit’ in the manual as most manufacturers do, then rejecting warranty claims when you have a problem because you’ve regularly charged to 100%!

Whether it’s 80% or 100%, I stand by my point but do agree with your summary

The best answer is multiple vehicles. I’ve got a Petrol Hybrid for long distance work / enjoying driving during the week, an EV for my wife / short journeys / visiting customer sites and the next purchase will be a sports car for the weekend. If I towed, I’d substitute the sports car for another Range Rover. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

Some more pictures released today: https://shorturl.at/NwIez

Not sure I'm any the wiser from looking at these. I tried to see whether the battery was visible in the same way it is on my PHEV, but it's too hard to tell. 2024 Range Rover P550e AB

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https://www.arenaev.com/range_rover_electr...s-4175.php ... - .- -.




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@Martin2:

I’m in full agreement on the 80%/20% rule for Li batteries, having researched the subject extensively.

Anyone disputing this simply hasn’t done their homework, get yourself on to Endless-Sphere.com and do a few months’ reading…..

As a result, I have two Ebike batteries which are 4 and 5 years old, still at 95 and 90 percent SOH, while other folks’ are junk after 3 years. This brings the subject of used electric vehicles into the discussion, i.e. you have zero idea if a previous owner charged up to 100% every time or not.  “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

I'm more than happy to be corrected, as I don't claim to be an authority on this subject, but my understanding with all batteries (inc i-phones), is that they're longer lasting when ran down to very low, or zero, then recharged back up to full (100%).

At work we have various fork lifts trucks and lifting equipment. I was recently told by Jungheinrich that pallet stackers batteries should be ran right down before recharging to full. This (I was told) is because a battery has some kind of memory, and if you continue to recharge it to half power for example, the battery will soon begin to think that this is it's "empty level" and not last as long, if that makes sense.

As I said, I'm not claiming to be any kind of authority, or correct on this subject, just interested to know the opinions of others and if this same rule applies to car batteries?

I currently have a 24MY P460e Hybrid and run the battery completely flat to zero, before charging to 100% - Getting about 66 miles to a full charge.

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It always makes me wonder the logic of placing a fuelpump inside a petrol tank...........[/quote]

Electrics in a tank can go spectacularly wrong. We were the first regiment to be issued with the CVR(T) Scorpion back in 1973. One blew up spectacularly at the POL point when the driver switched the ignition back on after fuelling up (fortunately, blowing him out through his hatch, slightly singed, somewhat bruised and thoroughly unamused). All that was left was a rather twisted 76mm gun in a puddle of melted aluminium. Turned out that the low-fuel warning light wiring was uninsulated where it went into the fuel tank and the wiring had shifted slightly to cause a short. Cue rapid modification of all CVR(T)s.

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Ayyyyyyy??? What about my battery question

Still, got the Nurnberg ring speed record (AFV - armoured fighting vehicle) too for a while

Apologies to aja500 for hijacking his thread

Dolphinboy quoted "Still, got the Nurnberg ring speed record (AFV - armoured fighting vehicle) too for a while."

'Eddie' Calvert's Scorpion on the finishing straight of the Nurnburgring in Sept 73.

That's quite alright Historian, I'm easily confused