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markturner



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey
wheel arch liner removal, rusty subframe

Hi, I am undertaking a bit of deep clean and corrosion maintenance on the car, but come up against a couple of clips I cant figure out how to remove holding the rear arch liners in. I have the bolt headed screws out, these are the clips at the rear / bottom of the liner. How best to remove ?

Second general query, the rear subframe and suspension arms etc are starting to get a bit rusty....whats the best recommended way to deal with them? Haver ordered some Bilt hamber rust gear and some lanaguard, but wondering how much to try and remove first and with what. A lot of it will be tricky to remove without dissasembling.

Cheers

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WestyV8



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bigbo



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Have a look at David's thread, he's probably now de-rusted just about everything that could rust.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic57991.html

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markturner



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Cheers, will take a look. Here are some detail pictures of mine, what do you think?

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bigbo



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To answer your question on screws and clips holding the liner in place, on my car there is one nut at the top, 2 screws straight ahead of you when looking at the liner and finally one plastic clip with a centre pin holding the liner to the rear bumper.

David Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

Previous Cars of note
Land Rover Discovery 2
Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

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oggy



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the more time you spend on your prep work cleaning down the better the outcome will be. i have been dealing with rust all my life in the bodywork trade this is the way I do mine and it works well no more rust or welding for future mots. clean down and remove all rust prep areas with a rust sealer Hammerite kurust is okay the one goes on blue and then turns black. for bad areas the rest like wheel arches clean remove all dust etc degrease panel wipe or alike. mix up some epoxy resin and paint the arch area leave it dry then go over all seams and grommets with a seam sealer like tiger seal pu sealer let dry and recoat with a second coat of epoxy resin. and then put your wax oil coating on I go over about 3 coats over 3 days. and when you put all of the covers back use stainless steel fixings jobs a good un recoat every year with fresh wax oil coating the sheep oil is looking like a good item to use at the moment

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2007 supercharged 4.2 java black .sand leather vogue se trim
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range rover classic 200 tdi
discovery 1 200 tdi
freelander 2 2008 hse
discovery 1 300 tdi
p38 4.0 ltr man r380 ex royal support vehicle on v5c
discovery td5 man off roader

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kevinp



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I've just finished de-rusting the sub frames with a flexishaft in my dremel using grinding discs. Some of the scale was really thick.
It is a labour of love if you go down the same route!!!!!

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markturner



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Hmm, I think it will be a real nightmare trying to reach some of those places....even with a dremmel.I did a full underbody restoration of my E92 M3, when I had a ramp and ended up fitting a new subframe and replacing most of the suspension and barkes. I am thinking there is going to be a limited amount of work I can do without starting to dissasemble things. Which I am not sure if I have the facilities or inclination to do!

I had a look at the linked thread and thats is exactly what I would really like to do myself, but its a massive job and dont have the facilities.

Will have to think about it. I have looked on bay and there are a few subframes on there.......maybe better to by one, do all the work and get it swapped in ....what do you think? Replacing the bushes looks like a nightmare and buying an 11 year old frame its likely they will need doing?

Trouble is, I have seen it now...I hate the idea of rust, eating away at the car .....

Regarding the liner clips or pins - any tips on how to remove them?

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oggy



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take a picture of the fixings that are giving trouble I think it is the ones that have a small pin in the centre you tap them through and use a v tool behind the round you can't recover the pin so buy some new ones cheap on eBay new vehicle purchase
2007 supercharged 4.2 java black .sand leather vogue se trim
previous cars .
range rover classic 200 tdi
discovery 1 200 tdi
freelander 2 2008 hse
discovery 1 300 tdi
p38 4.0 ltr man r380 ex royal support vehicle on v5c
discovery td5 man off roader


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kevinp



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I did mine while the suspension arms were off the car which made it a lot easier.
How about one of them spot sand blasters and a big bag of kiln dried sand?

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markturner



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Yes, will have to try and decide if this is to be a big project or a scaled back version. I have ordered a load of lanoguard, bilt hamber etc stuff, so will see what I can do with that when it arrives. Then try and decide

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I’m about to do my rear wheel arches with Lanoguard. Will use Neutrarust 661 following rub down. Paint over then spray with the sheep oil Sheep Razz Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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oggy



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i have watched this vid a couple of times and it can be done better. you do not have to cut the arch trim you can bend it around the down return so it is left as one strip new vehicle purchase
2007 supercharged 4.2 java black .sand leather vogue se trim
previous cars .
range rover classic 200 tdi
discovery 1 200 tdi
freelander 2 2008 hse
discovery 1 300 tdi
p38 4.0 ltr man r380 ex royal support vehicle on v5c
discovery td5 man off roader

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Our local undersealing place have started to offer Lanoguard as a cheaper alternative to their normal Dinitrol stuff.

According to them, the Dinitrol stuff needs an inspection and any affected areas cleaning up and retreating every 12 months, the Lanoguard needs completely reapplying every 12 months.

Given the work involved and the fact it's a miserable job I'd be put off using Lanoguard every 12 months. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
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