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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey
2010-2012 Headlights - confused

Hi team

With MOT time looming, I've noticed a blinky eye near-side headlight bulb.

I've read a few posts - also seen Sam's Motor + Machine video and would love recommends on what to replace with.

Firstly today I will check the connector because it flashes briefly when switching on (then remaining off).

Assuming it's dead I'll need to replace but I think I have adaptive lights (but never seen them turning, tried in front of shop windows)

Then I read about shutters and no idea if I have those, again not seeing that function working.

Then HID vs LED..... all quite confusing, so love to know what you guys are recommending

. Cheers, Greg
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GraemeS



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HID (bi-xenon). I would swap left and right globes to determine whether the globe itself is faulty or the ballast is faulty.

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Adaptive lights don't work when stationary, can't remember the limits but there is an upper and lower limit to when they work, basically at slow speeds...

And, yes, deciding what to fit is a nightmare... light output and improvement over original are very subjective....

Personally I'd just use original bulbs but then I don't do much night driving... Thumbs Up Pete
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fisha



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As Hayland says, a very subjective topic are lights. I thought most had shutters. Basically the bulb is a single point of light, and a shutter lifts and lowers to cut off the upper part of the beam thrown to make it look dipped, and lifts to allow full beam. (I believe some cars shutters can also vary slightly as you drive along to maintain the beam level as you go over bumps and things too )

As for which bulbs, easiest is to replace like for like, so HID most likely in your case.

Then you start to look at what colour temp, measured in Kelvin. A lower value will tend to me more yellow tinted, a higher temp will tend to be more blueish tint. There is a perception that the whiter, bluer light is better, but on its own, that’s not always the case. For example, a blue tinted white light might ‘look’ brighter, but in reality may not be as intense a light as something with a yellow tint. So its not just the colour, but the actual amount of lumens of the bulb too.

And then there is also the idea that a yellower tint bulb is better in wet weather than a blue tint. REason being that the wavelengths of red/yellow are more likely to bounce back from a surface towards the bulb than a bluer wavelength which will bounce off the surface and keep going forward. Considering you want to see the road surface, you want light to bounce back towards you and not away from it. This is something I would agree with in practice having tried various tinted bulbs in old land rovers. The ‘cool’ looking blue./green tinted bulbs were in reality rubbish in the wet, where as plain normal bulbs were actually better at lighting the road surface.

I think most manufacturers make cars with 4000-4300k bulbs.

What about LED’s ? Not tried the personally. I had a mini with LED bulbs and they were very white coloured compared to the HID. I did like them, but I dont know how retrofit ones would be in the Range Rovers. V8 or else ...

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GGDR



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GraemeS brilliant idea - just done that, thank you!
fisha - great contact, thank you
Pete - ah I see that does make sense.

LandyManSam - if you are reading, are you still happy with the Beninsee ? Cheers, Greg
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