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Richo



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2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Ipanema Sand
Brake feel

Hi guys new to the Land Rover brand just brought a 2011 4.4 vogue. To me the brakes feel very wooden is there a good disc pad combo to improve the feel of the brakes looks like it’s had front discs and pads but looking at all the different manufacturers it’s mind boggling ,So anybody got any recommendations thanks Clive 👍

Post #649555 30th Nov 2022 5:17pm
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Describe 'wooden' as a break feel? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #649556 30th Nov 2022 5:19pm
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Richo



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2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Ipanema Sand

Not very sharpe really have to press pedal hard 😬😬

Post #649557 30th Nov 2022 5:25pm
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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

They have 6 pot Brembos fitted so it should stop well.

That said, it is the best part of 3 tons and those brakes are a pain to bleed.

You should not have to move the pedal much before the brakes start to come on. Pedal should be fairly firm without the engine running. If not, maybe there is air in the system….

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
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1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
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Post #649558 30th Nov 2022 5:41pm
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Phoenix



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Without the engine running, press the pedal repeatedly until there's almost no movement, hold the pedal down and start the engine. Does the pedal move down (with normal foot pressure) almost immediately and sink to >50% of the total travel distance?
If not, then you may have a vacuum or brake booster issue.

Post #649560 30th Nov 2022 5:57pm
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Richo



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2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Ipanema Sand

Will check just checked no engine running pumped pedal until full pedestrian started motor pedal goes down to about half way down 👍
I think they may have fitted budget pads 😬😬

Post #649561 30th Nov 2022 6:02pm
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Phoenix



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It could be the surface of the discs is quite worn / uneven (or the edges heavily lipped) and not the full area of the pads is touching the surface of the brake disc. Typically, the inner working face is worse than the outer.
The brake booster sounds fine from what you report.

Post #649562 30th Nov 2022 6:21pm
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I find them very progressive - plenty of stopping power if you press hard and gentle speed control if treated gently. Just like the accelerator pedal but in reverse. Budget vs expensive pads should have the same friction coefficient as this is a legal requirement. Budget pads may wear differently, create more dust, make more noise or fade under hard prolonged braking but shouldn't really have much difference in overall feel. A change of brake fluid and a full bleed is worthwhile but you may have fun with the bleed screws in the front callipers as they are alloy and suffer from galvanic corrosion. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #649563 30th Nov 2022 6:22pm
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Rambles



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2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Bosch discs. Brembo pads. Is the combo i put on recently.

Plenty of feel in my front brake, and very progressive with a fair amount of travel.
Might even describe my pedal as soft but not spongy. Pumping my brakes does not firm them up.
Radar control with forward alert will pre pump the brakes so you get immediate pressure.

Rock hard pedal with no feel is not how these brakes should feel.

Post #649575 30th Nov 2022 8:36pm
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Sandyt



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It might be worth replacing all the discs and pads I always do with a new to me car and brake fluid and all other fluids you just dont know what has been done regardless of the history Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Post #649588 1st Dec 2022 7:05am
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Replacing disks and pads all round is quite an expensive exercise esp if there may be nothing actual wrong …… 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Sandyt



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Yes I know but for me I like to know what quality of parts are on there I accept its not for everyone Thumbs Up

Post #649591 1st Dec 2022 8:03am
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