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AJGalaxy2012



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Re: Rufford Ford Videos

Alistair wrote:


The trick is to go in slowly and then build up speed to create a bow wave. That keeps most of the water out of the engine bay.


Thats the right technique, start slowly an increase speed slowly all the way across. Some of the vehicles going through rufford was shear crass stupidity both in depth of water and technique used.

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If you go crashing in then water tends to go everywhere. Usually most cars will stop due to a completely soaked air filter so the engine just stalls.

Sadly most of the vehicles that stop have hydraulic'd by sucking in water. It totals the engine completely with bent rods etc. BMW i3 Electric Car
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What gets me is if drivers are stupid enough to do this what else are they capable of doing....... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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After Thursdays rain the water depth was around 3 feet !!
And still the Lemmings kept throwing themselves in !!
Think the Ford is now the area’s top tourist attraction !!

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They do entertain don't they.......

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The FFRR will pass through most water if done correctly. Slow entry and good wave are essential

We once had Land Rover Germany use our camp and its tank training area as a 'demo' area for its last P38 model. we agreed that we would provide afternoon tea etc at the officers' mess for their guests as long as we could drive the cars. Part of the course was a tank ditch filled with water which we all successfully navigated, despite the resting water being at bonnet level and when driven through, went over the roof. we were given a bolloc king by the LR guy on the first run, for driving too fast. He then proceeded to go too slow, stalled and get stuck in said ditch, while we took great delight in hammering past and swamping him further. what a hoot but it made me determined to own a FFRR one day (now on my 4th!)

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The RR Bandit wrote:
I thought there was only me and my old man who appreciated how good these videos are!

Over the last year or so we’ve become quite the connoisseurs. BMW are hands down the worst for getting stranded, with LR stuff usually being damaged due to user error more than the car itself.

Glad there’s another fan out there haha


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Wogger



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Just a weather update for the Rufford area chaps, it’s raining well here at the moment, and more expected in the next few days.
Should be some good videos being posted, don’t think we’ve run out of idiots yet Whistle

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KurtVerbose wrote:
Then it has nothing to do with the engine speed because fan speed and engine speed aren't related on pretty much any vehicle built after 1980.

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a huge number of vehicles (including L322) still have viscous fans which are directly driven by the engine.

Albeit they more accurately match engine speed when hot but they still speed up and slow down with engine speed even when cold. Ed

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sako243 wrote:

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a huge number of vehicles (including L322) still have viscous fans which are directly driven by the engine.

Albeit they more accurately match engine speed when hot but they still speed up and slow down with engine speed even when cold.


Good point, but as you say fan speed is closely related to temperature rather than engine speed, so my initial point is still valid.

Also, a viscous coupling isn't direct drive.

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The latest vid.

Sign says nearly 3ft deep.

Takes 10 mins to drive around.

On balance I think I would've driven around.

This guy obviously has a different way of determining risk/reward.

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For the sake of 10 minutes....you have to wonder how some of these people get through a day, not just the ones driving in and getting stuck, but the morons blasting past them in old Defenders. On the upside I guess it is removing some old Vauxhalls from the road...

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curious to know if the 'rescuers' charge for towing the cars out of the water or whether they do it out of the kindness of their hearts [or laughs] ... - .- -.




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Amazed by the sheer number of youtubers there now too. Have wondered the exact same Stan, garages local to there must be pretty good draining water now. Or maybe there's a large field of knackered vehicles. Often wonder how the conversation goes with the work vehicles "erm boss, the vans fooked cause I drove through a puddle". Used to be loads of merc sprinters spluttering to a halt there. Weirdly satisfying though.

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