I wouldn't claim that charging anywhere in the UK is painless. Luckily I don't have to do it but I know plenty of people who do and it seems to be manageable or better. Even for those who do big mileages.

I would just point out that making a YouTube video titled "How I was able to charge my EV with no issues whatsoever and go about my business" probably doesn't monetise as well as the ones posted above  2016 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate
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Its the old story isnt it, nobody writes about how good things are, how well something worked, the majority are complaining or reporting issues. If you thought the posts on here were a good sample / true picture of a Range Rover you would never give one a second look. My L322 was fantastic and an amazing tow vehicle, it was something I had to get out of my system and I'm glad I had my L322 for a short time. I did post on many occasions with blogs of where I'd been, fuel consumption etc as well as when I had issues, many people dont. BMW i3 Electric Car
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I give up.

EVs are amazing and perfect in every situation and there is no room for improvement. Let's all scrap our ICE cars and join the club.

Actually I'll wait a little longer, I've never said they are not the future, I've never said ICE is best just that there are pros and cons to both. Happy for those that have them at the moment, that is your choice and budget but as said before I am entitled to my opinion. Tom

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1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

We knew you'd come around...  2016 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate
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Yep, lol.

Just need the micro chip implant and I'll be as good as gold.

Anyway, lovely summer we've had so far! Tom

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Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

Flashman wrote:

I give up.

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EVs are amazing and perfect in every situation and there is no room for improvement. Let's all scrap our ICE cars and join the club.

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Actually I'll wait a little longer,

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I've never said they are not the future

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I've never said ICE is best just that there are pros and cons to both.

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Happy for those that have them at the moment, that is your choice and budget but as said before I am entitled to my opinion.

Absolutely you are even if your facts are wrong BUT likewise we have a right to set the record straight.

And yes, I'm happy to agree to disagree.  BMW i3 Electric Car
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Flashman wrote:

Just need the micro chip implant and I'll be as good as gold.

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Anyway, lovely summer we've had so far!

Whats a Solar PV? if its free I should have one but I thought they cost thousands, thats an awful lot of Diesel.  Geoff

 Tom

Current Drive
2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Santorini Black - Ivory Leather

Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

I have had an enjoyable morning reading this thread with a nice box of popcorn, one question, is there an EV that will tow 3.5T 95% of the time?

Sure is

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AJGalaxy2012 wrote:

Oh you really got it bad, fanboy!!!

I do like your Marxist graph/chart...

So I guess the science is sorted on this one then?!? You don't know '''prof''' Brian Cox, by any chance, do you?

Are you really such a fan - or funded? Let's see how you feel about EVs in a year's time...

verydisco wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Wow, seemed to hit the EV fanboys raw nerves. 4 hours /.../e OP's point that costs to run an EV rising is a very real concern when comparing costs of vehicle and per mile travel.

Not just EV fanboys', regular new vehicle buyers Flashman But let's be real, the market is going electric for many positive reasons.

In your post, we see the typical popular misconceptions and stereotypes (pushed by the oil industry?). If you look into it seriously, you'll learn new techs already do not use Lithium (unlike one's laptop, iPhone, potentially, car remote, toothbrush, etc)

Anyhow, your points were relevant 3/4 years ago but all, yes all, these points have been resolved already: one can easily charge anywhere now in the UK. New tech will make it cheaper than ever to run an EV and ICEs vehicles will be naturally replaced (the price of these will collapse, not lithium battery EVS).

For info, the first loan bank has just announced they will stop loans on ICE and Hybrid cars altogether. Shows you where the market is going.

https://bankaust.com.au/about-us/why-us/ev...loans-2025

Flashman wrote:

I give up.

EVs are amazing and perfect in every situation and there is no room for improvement. Let's all scrap our ICE cars and join the club.

Actually I'll wait a little longer, I've never said they are not the future, I've never said ICE is best just that there are pros and cons to both. Happy for those that have them at the moment, that is your choice and budget but as said before I am entitled to my opinion.

Hang onto those L322s chaps... as when the EVs disappear and the fad wears off those big beasts will be worth a fortune

That will have rusted away into a pile of iron oxide long before EV’s are done. The only time they’re worth a fortune is when a Land Rover dealer is brainwashing the buyer. BMW i3 Electric Car
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2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6