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M1keyb



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Westfalia tow bar armature - fitting query

Hi all,

I've recently bought an L322 Westminster. I was lucky enough to source a brand new genuine armature, which I'm planning on fitting to the car.

My question is - how many M14 bolts do I need to buy to fit it? Looking at the technical diagrams, it seems to suggest I need two additional bolts, with the others being re-used from what is already on the car.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

Mike

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Hi Mike,

I've just fitted my Westfalia armature to my 2006. It was on my 2010 and I just reused the bolts that attached it to the body.

See here https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic63354-60.html Page 5

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M1keyb



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Thanks Gavin, so I just need to use the bolts which are already on the car.

As an aside, I think it may have been you who I bought my towing electric harness from Thumbs Up

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Mike, I did this recently too. A couple of comments to consider, first I didn’t need any additional bolts (it mounts onto the rear bumper and existing tow bar eye and similar mount on the other side of the rear, see picture). Second, check your armature is for the same year car you have. The exhaust hangers on them changed with the facelift so fitting a pre-facelift armature to a facelift car require cutting off the exhaust mounts and re-using those from your car.



It’s a very satisfying job, a trolley Jack is a great help to take the weight of the armature while you’re positioning it. Current: Range Rover L322 4.4tdv8, Porsche 911 (996) Carrera 2, BMW 535d Touring, Skoda Fabia, BMW S1000XR

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Also, good luck. Fitting a tow bar is a big job and not for the faint hearted (as ignorant me found out after work in December, in the freezing cold) 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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Re: Westfalia tow bar armature - fitting query

M1keyb wrote:
Hi all,

I've recently bought an L322 Westminster. I was lucky enough to source a brand new genuine armature, which I'm planning on fitting to the car.

My question is - how many M14 bolts do I need to buy to fit it? Looking at the technical diagrams, it seems to suggest I need two additional bolts, with the others being re-used from what is already on the car.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

Mike


Also, good luck. Fitting a tow bar is a big job and not for the faint hearted.

If you want any tips or a bit of a guide, PM me, as I also have a 2011 and fitted mine myself.

I'd suggest a jack or axle stands to support the exhaust silencer and also get the tube of trusty lube out for the exhaust hangers.

Also, on the previous towing eye assembly which you need to remove, there is a welded nut on each side for the exhaust brackets. One of mine was completely seized so, I took it off the car, angle grinded the nut off and just installed a replacement A4 grade nut and bolt. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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M1keyb



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Davidmudley wrote:
Mike, I did this recently too. A couple of comments to consider, first I didn’t need any additional bolts (it mounts onto the rear bumper and existing tow bar eye and similar mount on the other side of the rear, see picture). Second, check your armature is for the same year car you have. The exhaust hangers on them changed with the facelift so fitting a pre-facelift armature to a facelift car require cutting off the exhaust mounts and re-using those from your car.



It’s a very satisfying job, a trolley Jack is a great help to take the weight of the armature while you’re positioning it.


Hi David, that's fantastic, thank you very much.

The armature is brand new, from JLR classic parts (it looks to be sold out now) - https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/v...=21C020405

Cheers

Mike

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M1keyb



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Re: Westfalia tow bar armature - fitting query

garyRR wrote:
M1keyb wrote:
Hi all,

I've recently bought an L322 Westminster. I was lucky enough to source a brand new genuine armature, which I'm planning on fitting to the car.

My question is - how many M14 bolts do I need to buy to fit it? Looking at the technical diagrams, it seems to suggest I need two additional bolts, with the others being re-used from what is already on the car.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

Mike


Also, good luck. Fitting a tow bar is a big job and not for the faint hearted.

If you want any tips or a bit of a guide, PM me, as I also have a 2011 and fitted mine myself.

I'd suggest a jack or axle stands to support the exhaust silencer and also get the tube of trusty lube out for the exhaust hangers.

Also, on the previous towing eye assembly which you need to remove, there is a welded nut on each side for the exhaust brackets. One of mine was completely seized so, I took it off the car, angle grinded the nut off and just installed a replacement A4 grade nut and bolt.


Brilliant, thanks for the offer and guidance Gary. I've fitted a towbar to my old Freelander 2 and I have plenty of jacks and axle stands and a keen father in law to help!

Cheers

Mike

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I found it incredibly satisfying fitting the tow bar to our old L322, a good opportunity to also hit most things with dintrol Thumbs Up



This should help with locating the clips for the rear bumper when you remove it, other than that is was very straight forward and the wiring is a plug and play dream compared to VAG cars where you need to run looms into the front of the car etc!




It’s also worth adding the car will need to be coded afterwards, even the engine note changed on ours when a trailer was connected after coding. Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
Previously George a 2007 MY07 Java Black VSE 3.6 TDV8
Previously a 04 MY04 Defender 90 Sad

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