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JayGee



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Thanks - much appreciated! 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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garyRR



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@JayGee for you to compare, this is what I get from the IID tool:

Static / AC switched ON but is inactive:


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AC is Active with a high draw. Pressure increases and evap temperature rises slightly but is stable


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AC has been active and recently switched off. The evap temperature starts rising and the pressure starts falling back to static


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 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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Post #635347 24th Jun 2022 11:43am
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JayGee



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Similar but not knowledgable to know what it means apart from there is no cooling at all and there is some pressure in the system and the compressor is drawing current. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Bingo_123



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Maybe you have a leak and system hasn't lost the gas completely yet. As the compressor is turning on.

Try getting the gas recharged, the leak test will confirm the leak.

If leak test ok then recharge will make system work fine.

If not then get the UV dye to catch the leak.

Post #635351 24th Jun 2022 12:18pm
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Phoenix



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Going off pressure readings alone can be deceptive, for air-conditioning to work properly, there needs to be enough condensable gas in the system so that there can be liquid formed under pressure - the 'high' side. It is possible for there to be sufficient pressure in the system for it to work in a narrow range of circumstances and not set a DTC. The readings presented in the screenshots also have a different ambient temperature so unless you know the temperature /pressure relationship for the particular refrigerant in use, they are meaningless as a comparison.
Regardless of the screenshots above, which I note all show compressor current draw, anyone who has had any refrigeration training beyond the F-Gas refrigerant handling certification will have had it drummed into them that the first stage of any meaningful diagnosis is 'recover, leak test, recharge'.

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Robert



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just found this one in the wiki, might help someone:

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post273438.html

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Dolphinboy



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that's for a 2003 4.4 V8 petrol though. May differ to the 2011 TDV8.

Post #635381 24th Jun 2022 4:39pm
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garyRR



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That's of the old BMW 4.4 and not the 4.4 TDV8. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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I will jump in here and go a little off-topic, if I asked for advice and disagreed with the advice given, I would......
'Disagree with decorum' Even with the best will in the world, some people will never see 'Eye to eye' but when a member takes time out to help me, even if I disagree, I am always grateful for their time / input and effort. Thumbs Up

Job done, now the bar's opening, just completed a very intensive week on a medical / first aid / initial response / diagnosis training course so really, really need a beer!!!!!..........or two. Whistle Very Happy

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JayGee



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AC was working this weekend with the lower ambient temperatures than last week. Still going to get a regas and leak check this week though. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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mjdronfield



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Think that sounds like the best first move.

Mine has the valve issue on the compressor, so I never know when mine will blow cold 🤣.

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Previous cars :
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1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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JayGee wrote:
AC was working this weekend with the lower ambient temperatures than last week. Still going to get a regas and leak check this week though.

Ditto, mine the same.

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Dolphinboy



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don't mean to hijack, but these are my Iid tool readings yesterday. My aircon has been assessed to have no leaks but is still not very cold when needed. any comments? Is it the valve fault you reckon? it's a 2011 TDV8.

The first pic shows a remarkably high ampage but it became normal after a short while. The engine is running.

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then I took a series of pics, but still no real coolness coming out.

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mjdronfield



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You might have all read this already….

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic43778.html

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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JayGee



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Doesn't look like it's cooling at all with those evap temps - what was the heater control temp set to? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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