Just filled up, and boom , just over £150 from empty. Porsche was £160 the other week.

Where do we think this'll end up, £2 per litre. Just think it's getting waay out of hand. Are they actually trying to force us into electrics. Answers on a post card.....

Oil prices will continue to rise, the easy to get oil has been extracted, now the more difficult to access oil reserves are being explored. The labour costs are increasing, the hardware costs are increasing the net result can only be an increase in oil prices. I retired our of the offshore oil industry 5 years ago and the writing was on the wall at that point of where all of the was heading.
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It's only going too push the country back into a recession mate I think. People are going to end up borrowing money they simply can't afford too pay back as each month they will borrow and borrow. I remember I could fill my v8 up for around £110 when I first got it, now its generally the wrong side of £150 as I only use tesco momentum or shell v power. The local shell garage for e10 petrol is already at £1.57pl so sooner or later I think we will see prices of £2 or more

It might end for me when it's more expensive than public transport.

And when public transport is as convenient, comfortable and reliable.

And is always available door to door when I need it.

And doesn't charge me for extra passengers.

And doesn't mind doing trips to the recycling centre.

Always assuming you have access to public transport!

Mike

RRV8SC wrote:

It might end for me when it's more expensive than public transport.

And when public transport is as convenient, comfortable and reliable.

And is always available door to door when I need it.

And doesn't charge me for extra passengers.

And doesn't mind doing trips to the recycling centre.

Like your thinking sir.

I'm on lpg which is going up but still cheaper to run plus my 2 dogs x2 boys , wife and elderly mother inlaw plus her wheel chair all fit in comfort in the motor. Public transport NEVER !!!!!!!

AJGalaxy2012 wrote:

I've just filled up my i3, £1.50 and it gets me 140 miles or thereabouts.

1.75L will not be far off and maybe more. I use mine for work and will have to start charging more and so will other businesses thus the cost of everything goes up. Question is have fuel prices gone too high or were they previously artificially low… 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

A quick look at diesel prices in 45 countries across Europe shows only three or four countries paying more than us. Two of them are Scandinavian, so that is understandable. Looks like profiteering to me.

With higher fuel prices, it affects prices of just about everything. It takes quite a while to transport and refine crude oil then distribute the end products, so why do prices rise immediately when crude oil prices rise?

When have any fuel prices been based on anything but 'profiteering' and don't forget the tax content of fuel - oil companies just like every other business is trying to recoup losses made during the covid pandemic. I could trade my L322 in for a Nissan Note but....... 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

And don't forget the fuel duty that the government imposes. ....if they really wanted to ease the pain, they could reduce the duty!

Mike

The motorist has always been seen as a cash cow by the government.

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MPx wrote:

AJGalaxy2012 wrote:

I've just filled up my i3, £1.50 and it gets me 140 miles or thereabouts.

I get the comparatve point you're making but £1:50 from empty is a stretch even for the now defunct Octopus Go tariff! My current (pun intended) "deal" is ~17p/unit overnight and 27p/unit daytime. To fill our (94AH) i3 from empty takes about 40units and split between rates would give a cost of about £9 for the hundred miles it will do in the winter. Still a good price compared to dinosaur juice but a mere 6x your suggestion for less miles. If you're away from home and buy from the oil producers then their leccy prices can be approx 3x domestic prices - which is pretty much the same per mile as petrol in a normal car. I enjoyed the good times of cheap leccy (even free in some places) when we first got the car in 2018, but the economics have changed very quickly as we all knew they must.

Isn’t the 4p for 4 hours? if so, that 28-29kwh a day, which is only 70-90 miles. I had a look (different provider) because my wife now has access to a salary sacrifice scheme making an electric car a pretty cheap option, but and if you have one with a decent range that you use regularly, it was cheaper to stay on the variable tariff as the rate for the other 20 hours was pretty high.

The idea didn’t last long as with electric costs rising, expensive fast charging away from home and still limited range, it’s just not worth choosing something I don’t really want to save a rapidly reducing amount of money. It might be different if it was a low mileage second car, but it needs to do 15-20k miles a year and the only sensible way to do that in an electric car is to buy a Tesla.

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