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mrblonde



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Do you replace all 4 tyres together?

Hypothetical question, as I do very few miles a year and have had 2 different sets of alloys with decent tyres in the 12 years of ownership.

Do you replace all 4 tyres in one go? Technically they should all wear at the same rate, but if your down on tread to about 4mm all round and get an unrepairable puncture in one tyre, would you replace just the one?

Never dawned on me before, so thought I’d ask

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mjdronfield



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I’d do an axle at a time if the other tyre on the same axle isn’t nearly new, ie similar to the new one going on.

The fronts tend to wear more as they do the cornering too.

A worn tyre is less a diameter than a new tyre, I assume the traction control takes this in to account....


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Haylands



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Your fatty won't care if it has a new and old tyre on the same axle, it's not recommended though, they should be changed in pairs really... Thumbs Up Pete

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LT



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In pairs. The new pair always going on the rear axle, where you want the most grip.

Understeer being easier to deal with than oversteer. Thumbs Up

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I Always rotate when wear starts to show more on one axle and always replace in full sets, that way all tyres remain the same age and of the same brand. The tyres last longer and I get a better deal for a full set so works out cheaper in the long run, and it makes me happier. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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bishbosh10



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I replace axle sets together and as previously mentioned always put the Best on the Back Smile Bish.

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Always put 4 new tyres on. (and check the spare is the same size)
Rotate them at each service/5000 miles then alignment once a year. l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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Merchy



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ALWAYS change them in pairs ( Same axle ) unless you destroy a nearly new tyre that is !!
As above, the fronts wear faster than the rears.

As an aside, here is a lesson to learn from, my Brother bought a superb T5 a while back, and I did various jobs on it adding lots of goodies. Well, after some months we changed all the wheels / tyres for some he had borrowed so he could get his wheels refurbished. It was only when we were stacking the wheels inside his garage that we noticed one of the tyres was a smaller diameter than the others Shocked In that time the selling garage, two VDub specialists, brother and I HAD NOT spotted the obvious. Embarassed Shocked Thud

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I change the lot all together regardless and stick a premium brand

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in an ideal world and funds permitting its best to change all four but reality many cant afford to do so..

in this situation i would change the two on the same axle as most here have recommended...

and as the FF distributes its drive equally to both axles it doesnt matter if you put them on the rear or front but the fronts are my personal choice as they are the ones you point in the direction you want to go... ... - .- -.




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LT



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That’s a common mistake Stan, even with full time 4X4, please fit the new tyres to the rear. Thumbs Up

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Yep - I was advised (and surprised!) on a Police training course (no not one of those courses!) that you always put the best on the back. As already said, understeer is much easier to correct than oversteer and a blowout at the front is also more controllable than one at the rear Embarassed (apparently). Bish.

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Bean19844



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Bish

I can confirm that is true.

Blowouts on the front are easier too manage then one on the rear. Done plenty of advanced emergency driving courses for my job and seen what happens when a tyre overheats and goes pop at 120mph. All done under training and instructions

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Treebor99



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Funny no one has mentioned the extra wear on the center diff?

I know most of the early 4x4 cars required 4 equal tyres, I know freelanders with their front wheel drive bias needed the fronts to always be the newer tyres else the center diff thingy would start locking up. ( I might have that backwards?)

Point is although our 4x4's are pretty robust making your center diff work harder than necessary probably saps some power / fuel economy/ and certainly increases the wear rate on the diff.

I like having 4 matched tyres - not just brand but wear as well - I rotate mine just like the service manual instructs.

No idea what effect wheel speed differences have on traction control and more importantly ABS - and I don't want to find out the hard way or the expensive way.

I guess each to their own - the financial cost is defo a big driving force. Anything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough (and have deep pockets|)
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Haylands



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Surely dealing with understeer or oversteer is irrelevant in a vehicle with all the driving aids the Range Rover has...

Trying to provoke either is virtually impossible, the driving aids take over and bring you back into line...

I also can't see the argument about blowouts... whatever causes a blowout of a tyre doesn't pick the oldest tyre to blow out... Just because a tyre is worn does not mean it stands any more chance of catastrophic failure if it hits debris.... If it's so old and worn it just blows out on it's own then it shouldn't be on there in the first place...

I'm with Stan, much prefer the extra tread at the front especially in the wet when the extra tread depth will help stop the vehicle quicker than having more tread at the rear....

Just my 2p... Pete

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