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Sam Member Since: 02 Jun 2017 Location: West Sussex Posts: 89 ![]() ![]() |
Morning Gary, first thing to check is the 2x 'L' shaped inlet hoses on top and to the front of the engine. They often split with age and will give the symptoms you describe. Once you have intake air either entering or escaping upstream of the MAF sensor it sends the system haywire. Could of course be something altogether different, but it'll take you two minutes to check these for splits and if you're lucky, you find one and you've got yourself a cheap and easy fix. |
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garyRR Member Since: 13 Mar 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1480 ![]() ![]() |
Unfortunately, it's not the hoses. They're fairly new with no splits. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 |
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Sam Member Since: 02 Jun 2017 Location: West Sussex Posts: 89 ![]() ![]() |
Ok, well at least you can eliminate those then. Could still be an air leak though. If you have access to a combustible aerosol (Brake cleaner is ideal), spray it all around the intake system with the engine idling. If the revs pick up you've got an air leak somewhere. |
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Dolphinboy Member Since: 07 Dec 2009 Location: Bristol Posts: 3196 ![]() ![]() |
My money is on a hairline crack in the Inlet Manifold. Well known fault, especially on the 3.0L engine in the Jags etc. You will need a HIGH Pressure test to find it. |
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garyRR Member Since: 13 Mar 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1480 ![]() ![]() |
Do you mean the air inlet manifold or a rocker cover? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 |
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Sam Member Since: 02 Jun 2017 Location: West Sussex Posts: 89 ![]() ![]() |
The inlet system. Hose connectors, inlet manifold connections, where the inlet connects to the heads, etc etc. Don't rev it though, only do it at idle so the turbos are not boosting. The reason being is that at idle if there is an air leak it'll suck in the 'combustible', but if you spool up the turbos they'll pressurise the intakes and blow any combustible away (From the area of the leak, if there even is one). |
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Dolphinboy Member Since: 07 Dec 2009 Location: Bristol Posts: 3196 ![]() ![]() |
Air inlet Manifold. Although just seen your readings for MAPT are normal so maybe not? I have heard of EGR gates sticking. just a thought.
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garyRR Member Since: 13 Mar 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1480 ![]() ![]() |
I think I've found the cause. A big 1.5" gash in an intercooler pipe. I've quickly bodged it with gaffa tape and seems largely sorted.
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Sam Member Since: 02 Jun 2017 Location: West Sussex Posts: 89 ![]() ![]() |
That'll do it. Drive it very gently until you get it sorted as only a small amount of turbo boost will blow a hole in that tape. Basically what you're now getting is un-metered air into the engine.
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garyRR Member Since: 13 Mar 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1480 ![]() ![]() |
New intercooler hoses ordered, which will hopefully arrive tomorrow.
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garyRR Member Since: 13 Mar 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1480 ![]() ![]() |
Intercooler hoses replaced and now nice and clean at cruise or a normal acceleration however, still heavy clouds of black soot under heavy acceleration.
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Sam Member Since: 02 Jun 2017 Location: West Sussex Posts: 89 ![]() ![]() |
Good news. You'll find the soot calms down after a while. The PCM (Power Control Module) has been trying to compensate for the mixture all being cocked up, and will gradually re-learn the correct values.
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