Jayk69 wrote:

if you can get hold of a Icarsoft V2 you can monitor in Realtime the voltage and NM value of each damper.
in theory if you see the voltage drop, but the NM value does not it would indicate the valve on the damper may be stuck or the fluid in the damper has past its best or leaked away (you cannot detect a leak on the fronts unless you take the air bags off)

just a thought

Jayk69 wrote:

Just to update

when i engage drive the shocks get a voltage of 1.5 volts this drops the NM value from 899NM to 250NM on the rears.
I will try to plug in and take some pics of all four to give people a baseline to work from.

I think they energize once you start moving, rather than just engaging drive - but could be wrong there, been a while since I had it plugged into SDD. Sam's Motor & Machine YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgNSRjY0I9FCzsi9ku3ccbw

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Not trying to detract from the core issue in this thread but I'm feeling my steering is heavier than it should be lately.

I had this issue on my last l322 and never fixed it just some days it was nice others not.

Now I'm wondering if the 2 faults could be connected?

Could I ask how you feel about the steering weight on your L322s chaps?

Mine just fine! Sweet, in fact... Some of those over-priced tyres can make it seem heavier, for some reason, though who knows why?!? Maybe to make them wear out faster?!?

MarianaWestminster wrote:

Not trying to detract from the core issue in this thread but I'm feeling my steering is heavier than it should be lately.

I had this issue on my last l322 and never fixed it just some days it was nice others not.

Now I'm wondering if the 2 faults could be connected?

Could I ask how you feel about the steering weight on your L322s chaps?

Thanks for your input guys!

Landymansam I was actually watching one of your videos last night and thought to myself 'mine certainly isnt that light!'

I tried replacing the servotronic on my last l322 and it didn't make a difference at all.

(That car also had a new rack and a known good used pump but like I say I never sorted it. My first L322 Westminster
was as you describe sam almost fingertip light)

I will go away and ponder it

My steering is fine… light at slow speeds, bit heavier as speed builds, though to be fair, it normally has a belly resting on it, so self centering not the best 🤣.

My suspension going harsh coincided with me upping the tyre pressures a bit for load. If that’s a factor, it may have jiggled the shocks more and potentially unstuck or stuck one of those solenoid valve things… if we are guessing.

Just been out, and I’ve deduced that at 30 or 40 I can feed the steering on smoothly, with my hand at the top position down to about 9 or 8 o’clock… and the tyres will start to squeal before the body starts to roll. The front of the car is still flat… or at least not rolled enough for me to notice whilst trying not to slide out the seat. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

LandyManSam wrote:

I think they energize once you start moving, rather than just engaging drive - but could be wrong there, been a while since I had it plugged into SDD.

After Sam has changed his front struts and found no change I'm now thinking it must be bush related. I have had the bushes checked but i think they have just done the quick test that MOT require for suspension bushes not for subframe mounts. It feels as though my whole subframe is loose and moving about! But no clunking which might counteracts the claim. Im fed up of how it drives.

has Sam changed them then? cannot see a video have i missed something 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Not recently, though Sam said in a video that he had put non CVD units on, and it was pretty much the same.

I’m assuming it’s that.

He has still yet to replace with new CVD fronts.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Correct. We are all waiting with anticipation to prove the theory correct  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Me too… although I am delayed due to needing new control arms too. I have a £1,700 bill for all those parts if I include the struts too.  Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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UPDATE

My suspensions gone stiff again this week unfortunately!

I've just fitted the rear dampers that I bought off coopss and it's not helped other than the back of the car doesn't feel as bouncy now.

This coupled with stiff steering is really making the car a bear to drive.

Kind of regretting buying another L322 now.

Hopefully one day we will have a fix but for now I'm out of ideas