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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey
2003 4.4

Evening all

So I done a visual inspection on my front brakes the other day and they are down to approx 3mm on the pads so will be due for renewal soon. Like all of my cars, I always upgrade the brakes on change time.

Anyone able to advise on whats a decent setup? Any chance the brembo calipers fit the non brembo milk bottle top set up?

I'll be getting better pads and discs as standard but wondered if the calipers could be improved

Cheers all

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verydisco



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange

Very happy with genuine items or Brembo discs and pads.
They both now come painted from new, which avoid them rusting from day one! l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

Am I right in thinking the brembo calipers of a 4.2 sc range fit direct to the front calipers of a 2003 v8?

Anyone able to advise please

Cheers

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Bl4ckD0g



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Netherlands 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

Anything can be made to fit anything Wink

But don't forget, with bigger calipers you'd also have to change your brake master cylinder.

I can't help but wonder that it would be a totally futile action; the car's power isn't becoming anything more, the brake job will be a big one with the master cylinder, lines, hubs, calipers, discs, pads...Heck that would cost more than the car is worth Wink

I'd buy a 4.2 SC instead...

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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

Just something I've always done. I've always kept my options open for better brakes on each car I've owned. Don't mind paying a bit to do them but not gonna spend £2,000 on them

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Billie



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England 2006 Range Rover Vogue 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

verydisco wrote:
Very happy with genuine items or Brembo discs and pads.
They both now come painted from new, which avoid them rusting from day one!


Like you, we have complete brake system changed when no history available. We had discs, pads, sensors, shoes and calipers (£150) each. The calipers are pre painted grey. New tyres (4) and fluid change, almost 2K. Hopefully worry free motoring. We had Brembo and the discs have rust on them at 12 weeks old Rolling Eyes
b.

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northernmonkeyjones



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Personally I wouldn’t bother.

I have pretty much the same set up as is on the 4.4 petrols on my disco and that happily stops the car with a 3.5t fully loaded trailer on it. So I doubt there will be many situations where the extra stopping power is needed.

Best upgrade to do would be a calliper refurb, new discs and a set of greenstuff pads all round.

Much cheaper and will restore the system to its best. As said anything can be made to fit, but once you get into swapping callipers to brembos there are other considerations such as wheel size and offset to think about let alone mounting bracketry, new hub carriers etc.

I would get a price off Robin.Hall@duckworth.co.uk aka duckworthparts for a set of genuine discs, they won’t be much more than “brembo” ones which there is much debate about on here...... There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Bean19844



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Think I'll stick with that option by sounds of it and just get it all refurbished. I guess thinking about it now I've always had sports cars or vehicles that have had a decent brake setup and work quite aggressively.

My vectra 3.0cdti sri I had fitted vectra vxr 345mm brakes too them so it was pretty much like throwing an anchor out the window.

Guess rolling around in 2500kg range rover its never gonna be winning on the braking dept.

I'll email Robin tho

Cheers mate

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Bl4ckD0g



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Good choice as you’d still be disappointed. My original brembo calliper definitely stop, but don’t bite like an anker is thrown out. They are very civilised in how they brake.

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northernmonkeyjones



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No, I thought that there would be a marked difference between how the 07 with 4 pots and the 12 with 6 pots stop. Nope. They both stop. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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BMG



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/superc...hse.17815/

Did this to my 02 4.4. Not a massive difference in braking for a single emergency stop, but did feel better.
Mine needed a caliper refurb and I paid £50 each for the Brembo calipers from 2 sellers on eBay with single calipers for sale.
Rebuilt them with new pistons and seals ( £70 ) and a repaint.
Careful with buying off eBay, the Brembos from RR Sports are often listed as L322 parts and they are different. 19" wheels and over, 18" wont work too.

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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

Looks like a nice set up. Would you say it's worth the upgrade or just stick with refurbing the stock setup

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BMG



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

Probably not worth doing, unless you enjoy it as a bit of a project and the calipers come up cheap, as they did in my case.
Add in the cost for the backing plates , of which one is unavailable, discs , hoses and pads etc.
There isn't a big difference in braking for that one emergency stop situation, so wouldn't have really done it if I didn't have a sticking caliper/aged flexi hoses, and they were cheap.

Refurbing stock stuff will rejuvenate nicely and is very cheap/easy to do. Getting the brake fluid changed and properly bleeding the system will give a more confident feel. Have it done with with the software to jiggle the ABS pump to bleed it out correctly and fully.
I think because its all BMW stuff, you can get the software/lead cheaply and DIY with with a laptop, or any BMW specialist can do it.

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