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Johnte



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Which is best buy... ?

Within by budget I've narrowed down to a couple of options..

A nice 2005 TD6 Vogue SE with 60k miles, a full LRSH and RSE pack at £18k

or

A 2006 TDV8 Vogue with 98k miles and full LRSH at £23k

Would I need to be budgeting for a new gearbox soon with the TDV8 approaching 100k miles? Is the mileage just too high ? Am I right in thinking the TDV8 is 'slightly' more economical than the TD6?

Any opinions would be helpful please...

Post #61740 27th Apr 2011 8:56pm
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Re: Which is best buy... ?

Johnte wrote:
Within by budget I've narrowed down to a couple of options..

A nice 2005 TD6 Vogue SE with 60k miles, a full LRSH and RSE pack at £18k

or

A 2006 TDV8 Vogue with 98k miles and full LRSH at £23k

Would I need to be budgeting for a new gearbox soon with the TDV8 approaching 100k miles? Is the mileage just too high ? Am I right in thinking the TDV8 is 'slightly' more economical than the TD6?

Any opinions would be helpful please...


I'd say probably the TDV8, the miileage is nothing, no problem with the gearbox, just make sure you change the oil, I think on the later cars they are less prone to problems than on the TD6.

Some people don't like high mileage, personally I do, to me you just get a more recent car for the same money. People talk about lower resale value, but of course you're paying less for the car anyway, so it's not that relevant.

The TDV8 is no more economical than the TD6, just a better drive, quicker, suits the car better.

I'm assuming the TD6 is the facelift, otherwise I'd say no contest at all, but I'd still say the TDV8 is the better buy! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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If you can afford the tdv8 then you should go for it in my opinion. I've owned a 2007 tdv8 with 128k on the clock and it drove like new. I don't think you need to budget for a gearbox, just the oil change. If there are problems already with the gearbox then it should be apparent when you drive it.

The tdv8 is an amazing engine and a far better drive than the td6 (which I currently have). I think fuel consumption is very similar.

Obviously the tdv8 gets a load of other revisions too including an updated interior. My Previous RR's!

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To me, mileage isn't that important providing the car has been serviced correctly and is in good condition, so I'm gonna say TDV8, it's obviously replaced the TD6 for a good reason Laughing

Plus there's the revised interior and better engine as already pointed out.

Speaking of mileage, my dad's mate is a food rep and spends most of his time in his car, he has a '60' plate Merc C class with 30k on the clocks, his previous '07' went back with 145k, both are/were mint condition and drive like new still. 2006 Mercedes CLS
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hoppy_70 wrote:
Obviously the tdv8 gets a load of other revisions too including an updated interior.


The interior was changed in 2007, so a 2006 TDV8 will have the same one as a facelifted TD6 I believe.
Which means the better seats the eariler car has, not the cheaper later ones. Thumbs Up

Johnte wrote:
Am I right in thinking the TDV8 is 'slightly' more economical than the TD6?


The TDV8 is on average about 2mpg worse on fuel and you'll probably be looking at £460 a year for road tax rather than about £215 for the 2005 car.


Assuming the slight cost differences are not an issue I'd go for the TDV8.
It looks the same as a facelifted TD6, but is a better drive by far. I'd only be nervous of buying the TDV8 if I planned to do big milages as that could make the car pretty difficult to sell later with 200k+ on the clock.

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Johnte



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Fox wrote:

Assuming the slight cost differences are not an issue I'd go for the TDV8.
It looks the same as a facelifted TD6, but is a better drive by far. I'd only be nervous of buying the TDV8 if I planned to do big milages as that could make the car pretty difficult to sell later with 200k+ on the clock.


I would probably be doing less than 5k miles per year, so I suppose the mileage would actually be nearer average in 2 to 3 years time than it is now...

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Fox wrote:

The interior was changed in 2007, so a 2006 TDV8 will have the same one as a facelifted TD6 I believe.
Which means the better seats the eariler car has, not the cheaper later ones. Thumbs Up


The TDV8 I'm looking at has the newer style interior (newer seats, terrain response, etc..) in a 2006 model. I'm not sure if all did Confused

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Johnte wrote:
Fox wrote:

The interior was changed in 2007, so a 2006 TDV8 will have the same one as a facelifted TD6 I believe.
Which means the better seats the eariler car has, not the cheaper later ones. Thumbs Up


The TDV8 I'm looking at has the newer style interior (newer seats, terrain response, etc..) in a 2006 model. I'm not sure if all did Confused


I'd defo go TDV8. The whole cabin looks much nicer and more expensive...which it rightly is.

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My mistake, I thought the better seats were on the early TDV8 too, but it sounds like they were changed when the TDV8 was fitted.

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Go for the TDV8 but have an AA/RAC inspection. If all OK you will be getting a bargain as the TDV8 is a much better car to own & drive as well as being considerably more reliable. Thumbs Up

PS: An after market warranty (Warranty Direct or Warranty Wise) with MOT cover would make sense as the high mileage may lead to the odd small mechanical failure going forward. (Ball Joints/Bearings etc)

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Fox wrote:
My mistake, I thought the better seats were on the early TDV8 too, but it sounds like they were changed when the TDV8 was fitted.


Do you prefer the 'old' seats to the newer style then?

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johnson1 wrote:
Fox wrote:
My mistake, I thought the better seats were on the early TDV8 too, but it sounds like they were changed when the TDV8 was fitted.


Do you prefer the 'old' seats to the newer style then?


Yes.

on my 2006 TD6 seats you could bend/fold the back rest part of the way up, which also brought the headrest closer to the back of your head. It had more adjustment and the split backrest meant that you could get more shoulder support if you wanted it.

On my 2007 TDV8 the seat was OK (it is a FFRR after all) but was actually no better than in most cars costing half as much for adjustability. The backrest is a solid one peice design so I couldn't get as comfortable. And you can't move the headrest backwards and forwards either, only up or down.

I also found on the TDV8 drivers seat the base cushion wore very quickly on the surround to the control buttons on the right hand side. After 4000 miles the seat base was rubbing and a dust like substance was being produced. This was despite me being over 6 foot tall and always parking in access mode before getting out. Not good enough on a £60k+ car at all.


So in summary, the later seats in the 2007 upgrade were less comfortable and cheaper to produce than the earlier ones.
The rest of the interior upgrade I did prefer over the 2006 model though.

I've not seen a normal car with as much adjustment as the 2006 model has, but the 2007 has the same range of adjustment as a top spec 20k Skoda.

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Go for the TDV8, get Land rover to do a 1/2hr inspection (in my experience AA/RAC are not well regarded in their inspection quality), since it is 98K, get the longest warranty you can from a good warranty company, drop al the oil (engine, drives,gearboxes) and off you go. £23K is good value and all cars these days should do 200K no probs. High mileage on a young car means motorway and that is stress free, probably only wear on drivers seat - keep an eye on scrap cars for a younger drivers seat perhaps. TDV8 all the way. '96 Volkswagen Polo 1.4CL - SOLD
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Gazellio wrote:

PS: An after market warranty (Warranty Direct or Warranty Wise) with MOT cover would make sense as the high mileage may lead to the odd small mechanical failure going forward. (Ball Joints/Bearings etc)


Just checked warranty price - £128 per month Shocked seems a bit steep to me ?

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