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billybob



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rear wipe problem L322

Today my rear wiper and washer stopped working, can't even tease the wiper back into action. I did check the washer fuse in glove box fuse box which was intact, as was the other one in boot. No wiper and strangely no motor running to pump water either. I though it would have to be a fuse, but as both fuse 41 and fuse 80 are not blown, it must be something else. I did read about the motor seizing up, but how come the washer doesnt work either?
So, which of you guys or gals can help me resolve this problem, as I am planning to advertise the old girl for sale and really don't want to sell it with the rear wipe not working.
Any ideas would be very welcome. Thanks.

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PaulTyrer



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Quote "as I am planning to advertise the old girl for sale"

Thats what has done it!! You know these cars have spyware and audio recognition software hidden!

Those loudspeakers have microphones in them as well!!

Your comment has invoked the 'You think that you're going to get rid of me do you!!' chip!!

Post #561464 14th Jul 2020 7:02pm
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billybob



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That explains the drivers door switch pack and bcm packing up a few weeks back then!!!

I may also explain that despite the replacement bcm, the sunroof still isnt working!!!

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Have you tried slamming the boot with the wiper switches on? See if it jumps?

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billybob



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Not tried that, I did try flicking switch on and off and trying to move wiper arm, but it didnt start moving. Does the motor earth through the tailgate? Is that why you suggest slamming it?

Just went to test the slamming tailgate idea, nothing moved.

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mjdronfield



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Needs a new motor...., as you prob know, the water feed pipe goes through it and when it gets leaky, the motor seizes. Next thing will be rusty water leaking down the inside of the tailgate. That’s what my TD6 did....

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billybob



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How come the washer pumps not working though? Surely a dead wiper motor wouldnt stop the washer jet squirting?

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mjdronfield



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You mean it’s stopped running the pump? I think what tends to happen is that the water path gets blocked and the water either doesn’t come out or it squirts inside the motor and tailgate.

I don’t think it’s too hard to have a look. When mine got in a state, I just got the garage to fit a new unit. That said, I think others have stripped theirs down and got them going. I can’t help with that I’m afraid.

It’s a bit of an iffy design I think. There is also a 1 way valve that can clog, but that wouldn’t stop the wiper actually wiping.

Have a look.... you can’t make it more broke....

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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billybob



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Yes, you are right, it can only break once!! As for the washer, i can't hear a pump running, so I thought maybe the 2 faults were linked. But with intact fuses its just weird. I will check for power feed first, it might be the column switch at fault.
I wish I could jest do what the previous owner did, which was to sell it with loads of stuff wrong that you don't notice at first, but I like to be honest and fix stuff thats wrong

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mjdronfield



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Search function should help if you need any strip down help.

Thinking on, if you have the front wipers on, and you engage reverse, the rear should wipe. That will prove if it’s a stalk issue or not.

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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billybob



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Thats a brilliant suggestion, it should as you say wipe when in reverse if fronts are turned on. I will give it a go in the morning.

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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The washer pump is in the front passenger corner Thumbs Up

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billybob



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along with the front washer pump, uses same water bottle?
So if the rear motors stuck, broken etc it can't stop the rear washer working?

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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It can if the pipe is blocked, then the water has flowed into the wiper motor and then both the washer & wiper motors have burnt out?

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billybob



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OK, I suppose its possible, I will take a look at it later on today when I get back home.
Its weird how they updated the rear washer by feeding it through the motor, an accident waiting to happen in my opinion, didnt anyone tell them water and electric don't mix, and that what works and looks great on the test bench is in fact crap after a few years and many many screen wipes!

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