Hi Guys,

I was going to buy a 2011 model Vogue SE Diesel, but there is lots of rust on the subframe and some rust on main chassis where subframe bolts to chassis.
I am new to Range Rover, appreciate any help is it worth buying this car with all that the rust issues and can it be fixed or will the car fall apart due to the rust. Is expensive to fix? and can the rust come back?

Also some rust on both rear wheel arches at the front and some rust on the tailgate.

I want to buy a range and keep it for a good 8-10 years.

Appreciate advice, Thanks JG

Like anything, it's all fixable. I wouldn't be too concerned about surface rust on the undercarriage so long as it hasn't progressed to the stage of delamination of the metal. You can always spend many happy hours underneath with a dremel or some other device derusting and painting if you're a bit like me! I would, however be looking very closely at the rear wheel arches. Light surface rust on the edges (especially within the back door closure area) is treatable provided it hasn't started to get between the inner and outer arch panels (they're double skinned), also pay particular attention to where the cill joins the wheel arch inside the door closure. Corrosion gets in there and it's hidden by the plastic cill trim. Any bubbling above the plastic trim needs treating with extreme suspicion. As to rust on the tailgate, common, but tailgates can be changed. I've just bought a 2010 (2011 MY) 4.4 TdV8 that has no tailgate rust and only very light surface rust in one or two areas around the rear wheel arch inside the door closure, so they are out there, but it took me a few months of looking to find one. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

Purely my opinion, but I'd be giving that a wide berth. There is evidence of delamination on the subframe, my car has light surface rust on the subframe, nothing like that! The wheel arches don't look too bad, but I'd want to see them with the door open. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

+1 for giving that one a miss. While some of this is surface rust and shouldn't be a problem, the sub-frame doesnt look too clever to me and there are plenty more out there. Current: FF Westminster money pit

Gone:
RRS 4.2 SC
RRS 3.6 TDV8
FL2 TD4

Walk quickly the other way  Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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+1 with DrRob

Question, has it/did it have a towbar? Could have been used for launching boats into the sea.

And who uses hammer on weights for wheel balance on alloys? Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

Agreed -- look like it's been sat in salt water -- just WOW Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

I'm looking at similar age RRs - do I have any chance of finding one without rust issues ? 7 and 8 year old vehicles succumbing to tin worm ?

We bought ours 18 months ago and the only signs of corrosion were the rear wheel arches and the tailgate, both well known and documented for condition and fettling advice on here. Ours cost £180 to have sorted 2 months ago. There's a good buying guide in the wiki, too, which gives lots of general and specific information.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post189410.html#189410


Rust like the OP is seeing is, in my mind caused by using it for sea lauching. (I may be wrong, but it certainly looks c p)

Perhaps to alleviate the possibility of such rust as in the OP, buy one without a towbar in its history.

To the OP, walk away, there's better about and one may be along on here for sale. Take your time and do some reading up. And ask more questions, we'll do our best to help. Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

Guys thanks for all the replies much appreciated.
I shall keep searching.
I really wanted a white one with black leather.
I thought i had found it but then
all this rust too just made me sad.
You guys all great people and I appreciate the
responses.
Thanks JG