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Soupdragon



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Gulp, time for the bank account to take a beating.........

Had my RR serviced in December, 2,300mls ago at local main dealer, cost just under £1,000. I took it back last week because of a knocking coming from under the bonnet (sounds like a loose bolt) and gently pulsing brakes, but not the high frequency of ABS.

The Technician took it for a spin (the same one who had carried out the service) popped it on the ramp and then came back and ruined my nice cup of tea by telling me it needed a new steering rack. The rear discs also shot and a split CV gaiter, all at the knockdown price of £2,185!! I was not impressed, the CV boot doesn't worry me, they can split anytime, but how had he failed to spot the worn discs and why the hell is a steering rack failing on a 5 year old car? Bloody ridiculous! The car does venture off-road fairly regularly but I've never knocked the rack or hit the wheels hard on anything. Oddly, there is no play in the steering and the pump doesn't make a funny noise, just this bloody knocking noise as if something is loose.

Just when I was about to buy a new guitar the RR has taken it from me yet again!

Anyone got a joke to cheer me up? Rules are made for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.

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Your wish is my command...

Mr. Smith goes to the doctor's office to collect his wife's test results. The receptionist says to him, "I'm sorry, sir, but there has been a bit of a mix-up and we have a problem. When we sent the samples from your wife to the lab, the samples from another Mrs. Smith were sent at the same time and we are now uncertain which one is your wife's.

Frankly, the situation is either bad or terrible!" "What do you mean?"

"Well, one Mrs. Smith tested positive for Alzheimer's and the other Mrs. Smith has tested positive for AIDS. We can't tell which is your wife."

"That's terrible! Can we do the test over again?"

"Normally, yes. But you are with BUPA and they won't pay for these expensive tests more than once in a year, so we can't repeat the test until next year." "Well, what am I supposed to do now?"

"The GP recommends that you drop your wife off on the outskirts of town ......... If she remembers the way home, don't sleep with her." Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Friggin hell..............

Anyhow here's a wee joke

Police get a call saying There is a report of a man Flashing at the local LR Dealership ,
When they arrive there is a guy standing with his Dick hanging out ,
The police ask him why his dick's hanging out
to which he replies
"That'll be those Censored Mechanic's never put anything away when they're finished with it "

Whistle

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Here's a good joke,

A man walks into a Landrover dealership with cash to buy a car.

When he asks for a discount to sweeten the deal in some way he is told "We don't need to do discounts, our cars are in demand"

The man walks out...... Shocked


(The sad part is this is a true story!) Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter now those are funny!

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Full fat not diet



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Re: Gulp, time for the bank account to take a beating.......

Soupdragon wrote:
ruined my nice cup of tea by telling me it needed a new steering rack. The rear discs also shot and a split CV gaiter, all at the knockdown price of £2,185!! I was not impressed, the CV boot doesn't worry me, they can split anytime, but how had he failed to spot the worn discs and why the hell is a steering rack failing on a 5 year old car? Bloody ridiculous! The car does venture off-road fairly regularly but I've never knocked the rack or hit the wheels hard on anything. Oddly, there is no play in the steering and the pump doesn't make a funny noise, just this bloody knocking noise as if something is loose.



I have been getting a pump noise occassionaly when turning hard into right turns with lots of lock and the weight of the car mainly on the front passenger side and figured it needed topping up but when a dealer had a quick look he said the fluid levels were fine. He said i probally need a new steering rack but said they go on for a while and it will slowly get stiffer etc - I was worried but he said they dont just fail where you cant steer. Apart from the occassional niose i cant notice any deteriation but will get it looked at when next in for a service or to get a couple of other niggles sorted etc.

My car is 4 years old but runs on 20s which may well shorten the life although i havent noticed any abnormal tyre wear?

To get the job done i will use a local LR specialist but still have no idea how much it will cost in terms of parts and how much labour is involved etc assuming that is the problem. Anyone else had a rack problem and any ideas out there regarding cost to sort?

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A frend of mine with an 02 TD6 Vogue had to pay £1k for his steering rack to be replaced, seems it was a common issue on the earlier cars.

When I first got my car, in the first 2-3 months every now and then I'd start her up and find there was no power getting to the power steering, as stiff as anything, couldn't turn the car at all. It was always fixed by turning off and on again.

The dealers looked at it a couple of times but never found a fault, it was never explained. Weird!

The steering on my dad's 54 plate TD6 Vogue has always been stiff. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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£1k - was that at the main dealer and inc parts labour vat?

I dont get any stiffness (No Jokes) but just this occassional noise. If it wasnt for the noise i wouldnt know if there was a proble as there are no other symptoms.

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That was a main dealer (Shukers I beleive) and was about 2 yrs ago. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Full fat not diet wrote:
£1k - was that at the main dealer and inc parts labour vat?

I dont get any stiffness (No Jokes) but just this occassional noise. If it wasnt for the noise i wouldnt know if there was a proble as there are no other symptoms.


If i replied to that Adrian , I would get barred from the forum .............. Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Bow down Bow down

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could it be the track rod ends the thing on the ends of your rack that atatch to the hubs, id change these first along with the power steering fluid shouldnt cost more than bout £100-£200 + having the tracking re checked hope this helps Thumbs Up Thumbs Up onto no6 Range Rover

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Speedymark - Would this account for the noise as if low on fluid?

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i wouldnt have thaught so but thinking bout it i wonder if you might be sucking in air into the pump could it be a perforrated reservour or a loose pipe from the reservour to the pump i doubt you would see a leak as the fluid is sucked from the reservour it wont escape but its bringing air into the system if it was a leak after the pump you would see a leak as its positive pressure i.e the fluid WILL be forced out. if it was me i would change the power steering fluid , check all the hose connections before and after the pump for leaks and tightness then put 2 new track rod ends on as youll have to replace these anyway with a new rack so its not extra cost then get the allignments rechecked onto no6 Range Rover

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Soupdragon



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Thanks for all the replies, made I larfff........

My LR dealer also said that is would carry on working for miles and miles but that it would probably be an issue at MOT time which, sods law, is next month. I checked the track-rods ends and they're both fine so I have no choice but to believe the dealer. Although to be fair, I have no reason not to believe him either, it's just money that I would have liked to do something else with.

Anyway, joke time:

I was stopped by a patrol car of the M11 recently. I pulled onto the hard-shoulder and walked back to meet the officer. He looked at me and said, "did you realise that your wife fell out of the car about 11 miles back down the motorway sir?"

"Thankd God for that officer", I replied, "I thought I'd gone deaf".


I'll get me coat......... Rules are made for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.

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Great Joke Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

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