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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver
Seized ball joints

Hi folks,

So following the dreaded front suspension knock I ordered a kit with all suspension arms and ball joints... started the job this morning. Got the nuts unbolted fine but the ball joints on the hub and the front arm wont move and are seized.

I have tried everything.. got two type of tools.. Ball joint splitter and hammer didn't do the job.. to make matters worse.. the torx head of one of the screws that holds the hub ball joint in place has slipped and wont unscrew. Got the other screw off no problem.

Can someone please advise what my option are? Do i need a new hub as the screw head for the ball joint in the hub has slipped.. spent about 4 hours and had no joy..There are some hub on Fleabay.. however I have no idea whether the hub bearing would be in a good condition or not...

The guides and videos looked pretty easy.. I forgot we live in the UK and the climate seizes everything lol.. wish I had not started it now..

Help folks Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478900 19th May 2018 5:26pm
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Dano0404



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Use a bigger hammer? You can get hydraulic ball joint splitters? Maybe try heating it up.

Post #478913 19th May 2018 7:48pm
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Yeah I was thinking of getting a good hammer.. so far wasted £30 getting types of splitters and none of them worked.

Even then if I do get them out.. what would I be able to do with the rounded head T50 Torx.. feel like crying.. lol Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478915 19th May 2018 8:02pm
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Duplicate Post Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478916 19th May 2018 8:03pm
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Mikey



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OxyAcetelene to heat the hub
Bolt extractor to remove damaged screw
Job done Thumbs Up

Post #478917 19th May 2018 8:19pm
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

So sounds like a hub out job.. plus where would I get the oxyacetelene? Thinking might be cheaper to get a replacement hub Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478918 19th May 2018 8:22pm
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Mikey



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Then you have the same issue when replacing ball joints in the replacement hub...

It’s only an arse of a job first time round Thumbs Up

Post #478919 19th May 2018 8:23pm
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Agree.. any hints and tips.. where can I get the oxyacetelene? Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478920 19th May 2018 8:30pm
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Clivefog



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Local garage would help out with heat torch for a few pounds if you get the hub off.

Post #478942 20th May 2018 8:22am
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Thanks.. that's a good shout..

I will take it off and at the same time ask them to press the new ball joint in..

I've never taken the hub off before. Will take the camper, the disc and the dust shield off. And with everything off all I see is the and sensor and 2 bolts on the strut...

Are there any do's and donts? Do i need to be careful of something as its an air suspension setup?

Please advise Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478947 20th May 2018 9:08am
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Mikey



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Driveshaft can be a right Censored to get out

Cv joint is tapered, as is the drive flange. The further in it goes, the tighter it is to come out again. There is an LR special tool, but is best part of £800...

I have had 20 ton presses struggle to get them out in the past...

And the same issue to get the shaft back in again. Doesn’t even come through far enough to get the nut on the threads and pull it in

Post #478952 20th May 2018 9:27am
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Oh dear.. Mikey.. that's scared me off big time.. lol..

I thought it would be easy.. drive shaft bolt out and pull.. what Do i do now? Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478954 20th May 2018 9:39am
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Mikey



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I’ve always managed, but I do have an equipped workshop

DIY, depends on the amount of tools you have access to

Post #478956 20th May 2018 11:18am
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scotcruz



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Scotland 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

I have all the tools.. just not got a decent torch. Would have been gr8 if I had access to a ramp.

So taking the shaft out should be ok with the big puller I have. Any tips of get the shaft back in when its all done?

Also.. what size is the drive shaft nut? Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Post #478959 20th May 2018 12:05pm
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Mikey



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36mm bi-hex

Post #478967 20th May 2018 1:36pm
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