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Webbie



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Toothed belt change 2011 4.4 TDV8

Owned my FF for eight months, trouble free I thought until now. The cars in for service at an independent, being due an inspection 1 with 64000 on the clock. The machinic has noticed the toothed belt is starting to slip off it's pully, it's the belt which drives the power steering and alternator. I have authorised it to be replaced and the garage are awaiting parts.
Wondering:
When should the belt noramally be replaced?
Was it missed off a previous service.
Should all of the pulleys be replaced at the same time?
Is it a known issue on the 4.4 TDV8?

Post #423385 17th Jan 2017 8:57pm
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Baltic Blue



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Someone with a better memory than me will direct you to a post by Craig some while ago describing the problem with the toothed belt guide, causing it to run off line. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
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11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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northernmonkeyjones



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it is likely the pulley its slipping off is the tensioner. According to craig, the tensioners were prone to failure, the symptom of which is the belt running half off the pulley.

its pretty easy to change the tensioner. I reckon its doable on the drive with a couple of spanners and some skinned knuckles.

I have just had my ribbed belt done, while the front of my car was apart for something different. it had started to squeak a bit. IN theory the belts are fitted for life, but thats just bollo Censored
the belt on its own is about £35 from LR.

its not a regular service item neither are the pulleys. Get the tech to check all the pulleys are running free and if its the tensioner at fault get that changed too. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Webbie



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Thank you gents for responding, I feel a bit better informed now. The garage are intimating a bill of about £360 all in to do the belt job on top of the service. I can't work out why they work out why they feel they want to replace all of the pulleys just because tha have a bit of surface rust.

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northernmonkeyjones



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most of the pulleys are plastic Whistle but tbh if they are replacing them all for that they are doing well, as I priced them up recently and the price for the parts was more than that. I would expect that sort of bill for just doing the belt and the tensioner, and the couple of pulleys you can get to easily. Stripping the other pulleys out is a bit more involved and many hours labour as one of them is on the alternator mounting bracket. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Webbie



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Thanks for the additional info. It's my first RR and my first time at this Indy, always guarding against being taken for a ride with any garage having bad experiences in the past. Think this should be OK.

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666tur



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My 2012 4.4 has started squeaking likes it slipping, noticed the belt is half off the tensioner too. Need to get it looked at. 2012 4.4TDV8 VSE
2004 TD6 132k miles- SOLD
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GGDR



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I was advised to change the idler pulley(s) if in doubt. Because if the belt goes it will cause collateral damage.

Worth a peek with a torch once a month for all of us for sure. If the belt's half off then time to act!
. Cheers, Greg
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Tensioner and both belts changed on mine when the belt slipped off 2 weeks ago. No collateral damage luckily. Tensioner bearings collapse and throws the belt off. I had a strange whirring noise beforehand which I put down to the belt, but now realise it was probably the tensioner bearings on their last legs. First thing I knew the battery light came up on the dash, and power steering stopped working. Recovered to garage to fix. Chris

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666tur



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I am taking it into deals next week. I am assuming the tensioner is covered under the extended warranty. Mine is squeak, a spray of water quietens it for a bit. I am now nervous of it going now. Does anyone know how access able the tensioner and bolts are? It looks quite tight. 2012 4.4TDV8 VSE
2004 TD6 132k miles- SOLD
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 Tithonus Ex Military
1995 Land Rover Discovery 3.9i V8 manual

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carpcat



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My invoice was about 6 Hours work as the top coolant hose and fan cowling had to be removed, plus approx £200 parts Chris

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666tur



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My car has been to the dealer. It requires a new tensioner and it is covered by the extended warranty. 2012 4.4TDV8 VSE
2004 TD6 132k miles- SOLD
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 Tithonus Ex Military
1995 Land Rover Discovery 3.9i V8 manual

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John w



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Does anyone have any pictures of what I should be looking for ?
My belt squeaks a little for a minute after startup, then quietens down. Would be handy to check it though. Confused Too many toys, not enough time

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666tur



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My car is at dealer so can’t get a picture. If you stand at the front looking towards engine, there is a gap on the right hand side between engine and radiator, get a torch and inspect the belt, look at the second pulley from the top, it is the tensioner and has no lip on the pulley wheel unlike the others. On mine the belt was running at least 20% off the this pulley wheel. The dealer said not to drive like this, if it fails there is 1metre of strong belt thrashing around in there. 2012 4.4TDV8 VSE
2004 TD6 132k miles- SOLD
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 Tithonus Ex Military
1995 Land Rover Discovery 3.9i V8 manual

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John w



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OK, thanks. I will take a look at the weekend. Thumbs Up Too many toys, not enough time

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