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''water in fuel''

i have been getting this dash message occasionally for the last week or so , and although the westie is getting a service next month which includes a new fuel filter i thought i'd have a go at draining the water off.

now i do have a fairly strong grip but could i undo the plastic knurled nut, could i heck!...any tips on undoing this nut? ... - .- -.




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Have you got a strap wrench Stan? Access might be abit tight though.

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Stan,
Could you get access to use one of these?


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If you think it will do the job, I am going to send for one because I have never drained mine.👍

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steve & mike, you cant get anything like that onto it..the 'nut' is right underneath the filter and you can just about get your fingers onto it but theres no room to grip it properly..
i did undo the fuel filter housing nuts but the fuel pipes themselves restrict movement of the loosened fuel filter so that didnt help.

the only way i can see is to undo the filter itself ,take it out and do the drain then but i'm not sure if this is possible.. ... - .- -.




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Sorry no advice but wanted to answer becuase you are always so helpful. Good luck Smile 2015 4.4 AB
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Also Stan adding extra water to your tank will not improve
Your mpg 😂

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If the sensor is anywhere near as reliable as the version on the Discovery 2, the Land Rover official Service recommendation will be to pull the wiring connector off the sensor , tape it up & then no longer worry - lol.
On Disco 2s , many owners or dealers would attempt to drain off water & never find any. For later versions, LR removed the sensor on UK spec vehicles with no known issues.
I'm not sure on the L322, but is the fuel tank plastic ? If so, the only cause of water in diesel should be a dodgy supply. Paul,
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Would a tap spanner do it Stan?

Not sure if you've seen these but they can reach behind a sink to tighten a tap.

Like this:



Can you post a pic showing the access?

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its not a proper nut shape as such, more of a circle with notches..




its defo tight access.. ... - .- -.




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Stan, I had same problem, water in fuel message, and could not loosen the sensor - my remedy - remove air filter box and it will give you enough space to use small pipe wrench or pliers, or the alternative is this:


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and after couple weeks try again Rolling with laughter (sorry could not resist) . Very Happy

ps

there was no water in the fuell. I sprayed some "CorrosionX" on the contacts and had no recurrence since.

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Rolling with laughter Nino!

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Stan, is it the grooved "wheel" in between the sensor & filter in this pic.?



Same as the blue item in the service manual pic.
I assume someone has massively overtightened it previously as it should only be hand tight.

Edit : (don't know how this bit got cut off)

Could you get a couple of elastic bands loosely round it to get extra grip ? Paul,
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Just leave it until the service pal... Much easier Whistle Whistle Whistle

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its the bit thats arrowed pawl....


@craig, wise words Wink



@nino, Ner Ner ... - .- -.




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Stan, you should be able to pull the electrical connector off and wearing rubber gloves, be able to get enough purchase on the drain cock.

Alternatively, try and wrap a bit of rubber hose around the nut to give a better grip.

Man, it''s Saturday night and after a few whisky's, I should not be answering forum questions with words like nuts, cock, rubber and grip!! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Mike

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