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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black
Lost all keys

A friend of mine has lost all his keys to his 2006 TD6 Fatty, don't ask....
He has paid £200 for somebody to come out and make a spare key but all they did was make a non alarm fob key with no transponder looking at it so it unlocks the door and the alarm goes off. The guy that made the key claims it's not working because a fuse has blown in the vehicle which sounds like tripe to me.
Has anyone had a full key made other than at a dealer as the dealer said to bring the vehicle in but he can't move it without disconnecting the gear selector and putting it in neutral I guess and having it recovered or lifting it?
Thanks

Post #439021 20th May 2017 1:16pm
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Dave 67



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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Or disconnect the props at the UJ's as they enter the diffs and let the handbrake off and it will roll, put it on a flat bed then take it to the dealers. 2004 4.4V8 Vogue
BMW 330CD
BMW523i
Escort Mexico MK1
1974 airportable series 3

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Cheers, that's another option.
i have found a site that claims to come out and make a complete key, just wondered if anyone has any experience.

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Lukie



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2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

I would think best thing to do would be call breakdown company let them.grt it to dealers, already wasted £200 on non functioning key

there are some key guys out there that ate amazing I have a guy that.covers Merseyside

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NVB



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Cairns Blue

I've just ordered a new key from Land Rover. It came ready cut and programmed to my car. Just had to add it to the memory with the coding process as in my other post in here. Don't think he would need an original key to follow this process. RR History
1988 2.4td Classic 1999 to 2020
1992 3.9efi Westminster Classic 2004-2005
2005MY L322 3.0TD6 Vogue 2016 to current

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

He did try the dealer and they said they wanted the vehicle taken to them.
My mate doesn't have a clue about cars so he doesn't question anything, I may have to take over for him, you need a certain sort of reasoning when it comes to Landrovers ..
Thanks all, I'll keep you posted

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NVB



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Cairns Blue

See here. http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic42668.html

That was my starting point. All done over the phone. Key arrived in under a week. RR History
1988 2.4td Classic 1999 to 2020
1992 3.9efi Westminster Classic 2004-2005
2005MY L322 3.0TD6 Vogue 2016 to current

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Thanks for the thread, i need to PM Dan, where are the stickys please ?
I'll get my friends VIN and I imagine i will need his logbook and contact details and hopefully Dan will be able to help them out.
Many thanks

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axle



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If he needs to move the car in the meantime just lift the leather gaiter for the gear lever off and there is a mechanical override for the park brake under there but I can't see why it has to go to the stealers in the first place. 2008 MY Supercharged
Rimini Red / Jet
four zone climate
remote park heater
and no ugly kid windows.
magnus satis quod turpis satis

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Thanks , I'm learning a lot with this thread, I'll call round his house later and get the vin and email it over to Dan at Duckworths asking what the procedure is.
There is no way a key without the alarm buttons could work is there so I will also try and get my mates money back from the key guy.

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holidaychicken



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Ok, bit of an update- got a quote from Dan at £148 but key will still need to be programmed by a specialist or car taken to dealer.
I have spoken to the guy that did the original key and also the company that programmed it by having the EWS ECU sent to them and they are positive the key should work even when the alarm is going off which does work on mine if I just open the door with the key and not the fob.
I have given my mate the price of the key with alarm buttons and the original key guy says he can programme the new key and will try and work out why the key that has been made is not working.
Anyway... that's all I have for now

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

And another update..

The original key made was a transponder key and also had a spare transponder but this doesn't work as we know.

i kept chasing my mate and he has now ordered a key from landrover which arrived and does unlock the doors manually but nothing else as in wont turn off the alarm, operate central locking or turn in the ignition which is what i expected but the guy who organised the first key told me today it should work straight away as it came from landrover but as already said i don't think that is the case.

i have put it back in his hands to come out and have another look.

I have also removed the battery to recharge it.

Something i did notice today was the steering lock wasn't on but i didnt try turning the wheel too far....
That is all !

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Alistair



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As far as I know, the key needs to be paired to the car.

Clearly the mechanical side will work as it was cut to fit, but the car needs to know to accept the new fob - they don't come pre-programmed as such. The fob has a unique ID and the car maintains a list of which fobs it will accept.

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bembo449



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Adriatic Blue

good to know that his pain will benefit us all in the long run , I always thought a dealer sourced key would work form the get go but clearly not Confused

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holidaychicken



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Cheers guys, this is made so much more difficult by the fact that the guy my friend chose to replace the key is a bit of a numpty.......
I'm going to end up buying this car i can tell .............

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