At the risk of being laughed out of town (or perhaps not) anyone here experienced owning a Smart Car?

The fatty stays in the garage all week because I do minimal miles short journeys all day and up 'till now I have been using the family runabout Corsa day to day which we brought for my eldest to learn to drive in. Trouble is the inconsiderate little has gone and past his test first time so the Corsa is no longer 'mine'.

That leaves me in a bit of a pickle and I'm seriously considering a Smart City car. £1500 gets a 55 / 56 plate good nick car with about 50k miles but I don't know anything about ownership.

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why? I get the letting the ff sit on the drive and using a small car for city driving, but a fortwo smart car? Really? Never been in one but to my mind its more like a side by side 2 seat motorbike....

for that sort of money you can pick up the roadster version, which is still tiny but much more like a proper car. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I like this type of thing....but would try for a grey one. Its all about small is clever. The roadster is too big for my needs (and even more ugly from the back)

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My daughter had a Roadster for a couple of years, we put a turbo, wastegate, intercooler and tic pipe on it as it was a bit leggy, chipped it and she had great fun... she got pi55ed off with the constant leaks that beset them (It was why Mercedes pulled the plug on the Roadster) Massive fun to drive though...





She has just changed it for a 2007 Mitsubishi Colt CZ2 which is basically a Smart ForFour, it's 60% smart, Mercedes engineering, made in the old Volvo factory, it's a 1.3 4 cylinder with a six speed automatic manual box, 66,000 miles FMDSH immaculate condition and cost £1,000... It also does far more MPG than the 0.7turbo Roadster yet is about as fast....!!!





Smarts seem to be well made, pretty reliable and parts are reasonable to... (bit like an FF... ) :thumbsup:

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My other half has had a new 2seater city smart 2013 for 3 yrs and paid c. £159 per month. Never had a problem with it and even drove bristol to north Norfolk which was interesting. They get 50+ mpg and are brilliant to park as they fit in most spaces too small for a normal car. She's just bought a brand new (massive update in terms of shape and equipment) one on the same deal which is a vast improvement on the previous marque in terms of gearbox and equipment. You can still get enough kit inside if you are frugal

However I would buy a Seat/skoda/vw up/ Citigo which seats 4 and is much cheaper.

Had 3 Smart Fortwos 's 1.0 MHD.

2 of them had V-Belt issues as the duel starter/ alternator was misaligned so the belt jumped ( a known common fault) Fortunately the drivers stopped straight away before the engines ate themselves ( as the belt also is the timing belt too).

The suspension is very very hard and the auto box takes 2 seconds to change up/down so not smooth at all.

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I had a Brabaus one for about 4 years & loved it.

I always had a bit of an itch for one & then was bored between Christmas & New Year, bid for one on eBay and won it It turned out to be a great little thing

Because they don't even attempt a rear seat, they are surprisingly roomy inside

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You're looking at a 450 in your budget. If you do go that route then budget and engine rebuild at around 50k miles. It's not if it's when. If you can stretch your budget a bit then get a 451 which was available from 2007. They have a 1.0 Mitsubishi engine which is much more reliable and has longevity. Brabus 450's are OK.

Do not buy an MHD as mentioned earlier. They will throw the belt and lunch the engine. Once it overheats, it dies and there is no temp gauge, just a warning light by which time it's too late.

The 451 includes normally aspirated, 71bhp, turbo charged, 84bhp and a diesel, eff all bhp. There is also a Brabus version which can be pushed to about 120bhp. Considering the car weighs about as much as a basket of soup, the Brabus can move.

Driving them is a bit of a challenge to start with. You need to match revs to gear change for a smooth operation. It's not a normal slush box, like the fatty but a manual box with clutch that also includes some wizardry that changes gear automatically. That can be full auto, manually moving the stick or flappy paddles. When I drive ours I use flappy paddles, SWMBO uses "soft touch auto"

Our Smart (2008 Limited 2) has been in our ownership for nearly 4 years now and has cost nothing except regular servicing. We imported it to Greece as you can buy a UK car for about 1/2 what it would cost in Greece. Drove it across Europe to get it to Greece which was a great fun, 4 day road trip. Being a Limited Edition, it even has Ferrari Leather.

I would thoroughly recommend a Smart. It's as close to driving an original Mini as you can get.





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They are, in fact, very safe, the tridion safety cell works well...

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Many thanks Gents - much food for though.

Found this great resource too:
http://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php

Cheers

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I had one as a rental. I quite liked it.

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Many thanks Gents - much food for though.

Found this great resource too:
http://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php

Cheers

+1 I'd forgotten about that site, but I got loads of information from it at the time