I have no problem with people who want to live their life according to fairy tales passed down from the stone age.....until it starts to impact on mine.

mzplcg wrote:

^^ For me it's not about who we owe what to, but I recall just as if it were yesterday the last words from Albert Pierrepoint on the matter.
"All it ever achieved was revenge"

1. I don't see why we should reduce society to their level, and
2. There are numerous cases of Police corruption and/or miscarriages of justice in the past. I wouldn't fancy being on the receiving end of that.

Point 2 is getting worse as well. Ever since the rozzers have been measured on crime figures they have played to them and massaged them as far as possible. That isn't getting any better, in fact it gets worse every day. Every speeding ticket they dish out helps the overall average as it's a crime solved and it generates revenue for them. People are actively dissuaded from reporting crimes they know they can't solve etc. There's no reason to believe they would behave any differently if the death penalty were involved.

Please define "Blatantly guilty"

In whose eyes? The eyes of the law? The judiciary? Who exactly?

Judges too have been involved in unsavoury activities. Juries are made up of ones peers so presumably as poorly educated as me in some instances. And also bear in mind how many guilty would walk free because jury members would rather do that than condone the death penalty. I certainly would REGARDLESS of all other circumstances as I simply refuse to have another's blood on my hands. There are many more like me, irrational I think you said.

It's a very imperfect science and for such a final penalty to be available the whole process has to be perfect. Good luck creating that. Besides, are you talking about justice, or revenge? Are we not taught that there is no justification for taking the life of another? It logically follows that it must necessarily be an act of revenge or vengeance since there is no justification (justice) in doing it. Unless of course you follow Sharia law, part of the exact thing we collectively abhor in this civilised country.

There's a few rational reasons to chew over.

Ian Brady, Peter Sutcliffe, Donald Neilson, Denis Nilson,Rose West, Steve Wright (not the DJ), Levi Bellfield........... we could go on and on. I personally see no reason to keep these individuals. Its neither revenge nor justice its simple economics, Im afraid on this one I am somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan

I see some of them have now stormed a Nudist Swimming pool.

Gang of Muslims storm nudist pool in Germany yelling 'Allahu Akbar' and threatening to 'exterminate' women for being 'sluts'

Well you know what, its very simple really, you have come to a Democratic, welcoming country who have bent over backwards in some cases to give you homes, jobs, money, healthcare, rescue you from dinghys coming across the Med, etc, and this is how you repay us.

Well, if you do nt like living in a Christian country, or are not willing to integrate but would rather kill, be abusive and bomb us, then F**K OFF BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!!

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mzplcg wrote:

Ian Brady, Peter Sutcliffe, Donald Neilson, Denis Nilson,Rose West, Steve Wright (not the DJ), Levi Bellfield........... we could go on and on. I personally see no reason to keep these individuals. Its neither revenge nor justice its simple economics, Im afraid on this one I am somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan

PaulTyrer wrote:

Well, if you do nt like living in a Christian country, or are not willing to integrate but would rather kill, be abusive and bomb us, then F**K OFF BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!!

Come on mzplcg, Bentley -1953, Evans - 1950, things have changed since then hence why forensics were involved, as for the political killings, I am only looking at 100% eejits

We now have dedicated areas for suicide bombers.... Solve part of the problem.

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