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Road Stone



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Engine Oil Question

Hi Folks,

I'm coming up to service/engine oil change time. 3.6TDV8, 202,000klms.

5w-40 is the recommended type but it appears not available off the shelf here. My friend in Shell states they use 15w - 40
in their service centres for turbo diesels.

Is this okay to use? I'd imagine its better than keeping the old oil in!!

Cheers, Jerry THIS WRECKAGE
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its a tad warmer where you are so i would use an oil that works well in the heat.... ... - .- -.




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Road Stone



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Thanks and yes but the advice is conflicting!

There is an argument to have higher viscosity due to a warmer climate, so 15w-40 would address that.

Then there is the school of thought that you should not stray from what the manufacturer recommend.

My current oil is 5000klms +a bit, old. Time for change, mainly because of the crap fuel quality.

Cheers, Jerry THIS WRECKAGE
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The recomended oil for African use is still 5w 30 sir... I would not advise deviating from that!
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Road Stone



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Thanks for that but its not available here.

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a quick google comes up with 10w40... ... - .- -.




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The spec to look for is FORD WSS-M2C-913-C. This is what LR specify for the TDV8. Find something which meets that and it will be fine.
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Are you doing oil changes every 5000km Jerry, or doing a oil change in between a service? ______________________________
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What Dom said, but the spec ends with a B not a C

It's possible to get semi synth oils in the spec but the fully synth ones would be better. Thumbs Up There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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It's actually now up in D now! Regarding the Ford engine oil specification of TDV8 3.6 the Ford WSS M2C913-D is the latest specification, which superseded the previous Ford WSS M2C913-C, Ford WSS-M2C913-B, Ford WSS-M2C912-A and 913-A.

I believe the oil specification is the same for most other Ford diesel engines, including the JLR TDV6 and Duratorq fitted to late model Defenders. If supply is limited I would focus on is to getting a 5w30 oil which meets ACEA A5 and fully synthetic of course.

The oil with the above Ford specification is available from most oil manufacturers, as Castrol Magnatech, Q8 Formula Techno FE Plus, Shell Helix Ultra Professional AF. Supporter and maintainer of EDF - Mrs Edfors' shopping cart.
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Road Stone



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rar110 wrote:
Are you doing oil changes every 5000km Jerry, or doing a oil change in between a service?


Thanks for the input guys, its much appreciated.

I have no idea what WSS M2C913-D means (well I do now as I've just googled it) but it occurred to me I'll try the local Merc dealer here who are also the Jeep agent and have quite a few on the road.

The LR dealer lost the dealership here a couple of years ago (but I would NEVER use them!).

Pete: Yes its a done thing here to service every 5000klms. Heat/dust/road conditions and rubbish fuel mean it has to be done. Diesel here is well over 1000ppm, compare to Australia/Europe/UK which is 5-10ppm.

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Fair enough. I'm considering doing at least a rear sump plug drain in between main services. I'll probably end up doing both. ______________________________
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Road Stone



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Hi Pete,

Whats a rear sump plug drain? I'm vaguely aware there are two sump plugs!

I have found 5w-40 at the local Benz/Jeep dealership!

Cheers, Jerry THIS WRECKAGE
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Check out the two sump plugs and locations here: http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic28510-53.html Supporter and maintainer of EDF - Mrs Edfors' shopping cart.
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Thanks Edfors, great pics.

Gray Jerry here's a diagram from the WSM. It shows how the turbos drain to the rear part of the sump.

Click image to enlarge


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