Wiper died again, this time I was towing

I had the wipers on Auto, and they just died, but none of the other settings worked either, but the washers did, and that just made it worse

I pulled over and tried positions 1-4 on the stalk and nothing, then tried washers, they worked but the wipers didn't Then turned off the engine and back on, still didn't work. Tried again but turned the stalk to off position before restarting engine and they worked again, for about 25 minutes and then they died again, and I was still towing Has got me thinking that it's a 'puter fault Spent the rest of the day using ON or Manual Wipe , but they didn't screw up again, used for probably an hour without incidence.

Question 1, if you leave the wipers in auto when you switch off, what happens when you turn the car back on?

Cos 99% of the time mine do nothing at all, and when it rains and you can't see, I have to turn the stalk off and on to make it work. However on about 3 occasions when I turned on the car the wipers did one sweep and worked flawlessly without touching the stalk..... Gremlins ?

What will happen if I remove the rain sensor?

will I get no wipers or will I get wiper with intermittent wipe, (remember that I have NO IID tool, and it will be even further away if I've got to change the BCM )

Having looked at Rave I'm not much wiser, but I am now beginning to suspect that the Rain sensor is fubar'd, oh and I forgot to say, that sometimes when in auto mode it just stops. You drive along thinking any second now.............. and then I have to manually turn the wipers on and back to auto, and other times it has stopped raining and the Wipers are still waving at me, thought that it might have been road film over the sensor, now I'm thinking that it's just fubar'd. Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

i can answer this one,

Question 1, if you leave the wipers in auto when you switch off, what happens when you turn the car back on?

nothing..its a safety thing so that if the screen/wipers freeze [overnight for instance] then the motor wont burn out when you start up...... ... - .- -.




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Cheers Buddy, I knew you wouldn't let me down But then that still doesn't explain the 3 times it has just worked without any stalk movement  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

I had a similar problem on my 2004 322. I can't remember whether it was a relay or a software fault, but it was fixed without too much expense and did not recur. Only Range Rovers since 1988

You could always do what swmbo does. Have the wiper in the on position cause its raining, turn off car and leave said wipers wherever they park on the screen. Wait till it has 6 inches of snow on the screen then jump in car, turn ignition and voila, one f'''ed wiper motor

Done the relay last month when this started, I can live with no auto wipers if I've got intermittent. But it could turn a bit nasty if the things keep stopping just when I need them The first time it happened I was in the fast lane of the M25  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Agreed it is a nuisance to be without wipers, I had some pretty heavy downpours without them too. That said I am used to motorcycling.
I tried Turtle ClearVue Rain Repellent pending getting it fixed and it was helpful in shedding water, albeit one has to polish it quite hard to avoid being left with a smeary screen.
I had expected it to be the relay, as there seemed to be lots of failure reports, but I think it turned out to be something else, I am afraid I have forgotten what, but as already mentioned it was a cheap fix. Only Range Rovers since 1988

i wonder if its a dodgy wire in the stalk assembly Paul.... ... - .- -.




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Stan, very much doubt that, cos the washers were still working, all be it without any movement from the wipers

Something just told the wipers to stop, I was wondering if when Auto is on the sensor has control over the wipers, ie. BCM turns wipers on and the rain sensor turns them on and off. Only I'd imagine that the bong of Doom and the screen of death would join in if it was the BCM.

And as I said the auto system can be erratic sometimes, as there is no "WCU" they missed one there , I'm thinking that the rain sensor is on a wind up and looking to be evicted. Having said that they aren't actually that horrendously over priced, I was expecting something nearer the BCM price, but it's only 30% of that  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Auto wipers are too erratic at faster speed for me so I removed the rain sensor fuse to have intermittent wipers instead.

Does that affect your auto headlamps Graeme?

Wipers again, today, and I was not using auto wipe

I have yet to replace the rain sensor and now I'm thinking that it's not at fault, I think it's the BCM

Does the BCM control the info on the nav screen? Only every now and the the whole thing has a hiccup, goes blank, displays the Land Rover start up logo, and then goes back to showing what was on the screen before it's hiccup It can go for days without doing this, sometimes it's only a couple of times before normal service is resumed, and other times it can do it most of the day , every minute, HIC!

Beginning to wonder if they are linked, by something other than it's a ffrr what do you expect?  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

I'm pretty certain it's the wiper relay that is your problem.
Try checking the relay which is located below the scuttle behind the battery, it's brown in colour.

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 Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Hi There,

I am now to the site but have read many posts (very good)!

I have a RR Vogue which is the 2010 model and had the issue with the front wipers (working and then stopping for 3 mins where every they fancy in the cycle).

I look the battery out and found my relays where not behind the battery and i found them under the bonnet the the off side under a cover with other fuses and relays. There are two for the front wipers and I replaced both of them with new ones. The issue is still the same.

Dose anyone have any further advise please?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Richard