Hi all

I've had to turn off he high beam assist option in the menu settings because I was getting flashed by other drivers a lot, the high beam was turning on but really slow to turn off, drivers were about 15-20m away and in my line of vision and my full beam is blaring away, totally blinding oncoming traffic, how crap is that?

Its just slow as heck to go off, but immediate to come on as soon as another car gets past me.

Anyone else find it not a great system, or do I have yet another issue with this LEMON of a RR?

Thanks

Carl

They are rubbish!

I drove a hired Nissan the other week and it was fantastic

And i drove my brothers 15my Transit and it was confused by the reflections of road signs!

Yes, it's rubbish. Turned mine off after a week

It's rubbish. Turned it off immediately. It was also rubbish in the L322

Its crazy how bad these cars are but we all keep buying them even when they let us down, disappoint us etc.

When will LR learn, surely at £100k plus this will start to wear thin with customers?

I've said it before. The thing is reactive, it can never be anything else since it has no intelligence. It reacts to oncoming headlights (amongst a myriad of junk it shouldn't react to) and by the time it dips down the dazzling of the oncoming driver has already been done.

I was always taught to dip before you see oncoming lamps, not after. i.e. when you can see light coming from around the bend. I still think that's the good mannered thing to do.

carlos50 wrote:

Its crazy how bad these cars are but we all keep buying them even when they let us down, disappoint us etc.

When will LR learn, surely at £100k plus this will start to wear thin with customers?

mzplcg wrote:

I've said it before. The thing is reactive, it can never be anything else since it has no intelligence. It reacts to oncoming headlights (amongst a myriad of junk it shouldn't react to) and by the time it dips down the dazzling of the oncoming driver has already been done.

I was always taught to dip before you see oncoming lamps, not after. i.e. when you can see light coming from around the bend. I still think that's the good mannered thing to do.

Trommel wrote:

carlos50 wrote:

Its crazy how bad these cars are but we all keep buying them even when they let us down, disappoint us etc.

When will LR learn, surely at £100k plus this will start to wear thin with customers?

Just sell it...

Emperor Mong wrote:

I never expected it to be any good. I'm sure it's useless on other cars.

I got a chauffeur car back from Heathrow last week - I was talking to the driver about cars and somehow got onto high beam assist - he told me to wait & see his once we got off the M25 - it was a Merc but not a particularly fancy one - and it's system was fantastic - it was continually adjusting - so dipped slowly as you came up behind other cars, and was very quick to divert away from oncoming traffic.

It was much better than the FFRR system and really nice as it was progressive - no sudden plunge into darkness

I'm sure a better system could be built but it's one of those things that isn't ever going to be as intelligent as the driver.

Adaptive cruise control is similar. Very good about 70% of the time but the driver will always anticipate better and make fewer mistakes. However, the more you use it, the better you become at predicting when it will make a mistake (so you take over to ensure that it doesn't give you lumpy progress). Over-ride is seamless

The difference with HBA is that the mistakes are more annoying for other road users (and you). Not anticipating an oncoming driver will dazzle them. Plunging you into darkness because you are passing a reflective road sign is dangerous to you. It also (in my short acquaintance with it) seemed difficult to over-ride sensibly. I seem to remember that:
* dipping early to anticipate a car then turned HBA off, so you had to turn it back on again by manually selecting high beam
* but that put HBA back into auto mode, so would react to road signs, turning off high beam
* so you over-ride it to see the road ahead but that put it into non-auto mode full-beam
* so you then dazzle the next car because you have forgotten it's not in HBA mode.

At this point I gave up and turned it off. It's not a feature I have ever wanted so really doesn't bother me. However, I would like to program it to be on when my wife is driving as she never uses high beam...

I disabled it as it has to see oncoming headlights before it knows to dip, therefore you have already melted someones eyeballs before it turns the lights down!
My wife loves it on her Disco4 though. Maybe it's a man-thing!

I've got it on my 2016MY Audi S8 - and its brilliant - disappointed to hear that the RR isn't that great.

Emperor Mong wrote:

I'm sure a better system could be built but it's one of those things that isn't ever going to be as intelligent as the driver.

And my wife Dixy