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brad s1

Member Since: 23 Sep 2008
Location: Boston
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2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

5 min into every drive.air suspension inactive hdc abs brake

Since I've owned my US 2004 HSE it has done this. 5 minutes into a drive, or instantly when leaving a rest stop pulling onto the highway I get...

Air Suspension Inactive
HDC Inactive
Brake warning light
ABS warning light
DSC warning light

The suspension locks to standard height, the truck actually drops itself slightly when this happens.

When the rover is parked and turned off, the suspension pops up slightly back and then front, on the next restart the codes are gone and everything functions proper for 5 minutes, then this happens again.

When off road moving slowly down a trail, moving slowly over snow, this does not happen... Only 5 minutes into a regular commute do these codes appear.

My ABS sensors all looked fine, I decided to pull the front drivers side on a hunch... It was seized into the hub.. I tried to get a flat head screw driver behind it, and it essentially crumbled. Should those pop right out? Is it normal for them to seized to the hub?

The wiring itself looks good, but the abs sensor itself is a melted mess in the hub.

Anyone have any experience with this problem? What was your fix?

Someone told me it could be a steering angle sensor, but that seems to function properly when I pull the battery and re-calibrate it locking the steering wheel left to right.

Any help would be greatly appreciate

25th Jun 2010 4:56pm

lrdaft

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is your steering wheel centralised?

25th Jun 2010 9:17pm

brad s1

Member Since: 23 Sep 2008
Location: Boston
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lrdaft wrote:
is your steering wheel centralised?

As in turning the steering wheel lock to lock once you've wired the battery back in? If so yes that's been done and it clears the codes as it should...

But as soon as a commute gets under way all the codes come up.

26th Jun 2010 1:27am

lrdaft

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no what i mean is the steering wheel in the centre position when driving on a straight road?

26th Jun 2010 2:51pm

brad s1

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Location: Boston
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lrdaft wrote:
no what i mean is the steering wheel in the centre position when driving on a straight road?

it actually isn't, the alignment of the car does seem off... slight right dip to the steering wheel to go straight.

26th Jun 2010 4:41pm

lrdaft

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Location: United Kingdom
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that will cause your faults, check for worn ball joints and set wheel alignment

27th Jun 2010 6:14pm

brad s1

Member Since: 23 Sep 2008
Location: Boston
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lrdaft wrote:
that will cause your faults, check for worn ball joints and set wheel alignment

I see a recall for yaw sensor... Could that be related?

As far as worn ball joints, I just did the whole front suspension a month ago, tie rod ends/ uppers/ lowers/ etc...

Should I be going to the dealer for the alignment, or will any reputable place do?

27th Jun 2010 7:31pm

lrdaft

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Location: United Kingdom
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anyone who can set four wheel alignment
make sure steering wheel is straight as this is critical

27th Jun 2010 8:05pm

brad s1

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Location: Boston
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lrdaft wrote:
anyone who can set four wheel alignment
make sure steering wheel is straight as this is critical

Interesting, I've never heard of this causing a problem before.

27th Jun 2010 8:19pm

paul_h_8

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Location: North East - England
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brad s1 wrote:
lrdaft wrote:
anyone who can set four wheel alignment
make sure steering wheel is straight as this is critical

Interesting, I've never heard of this causing a problem before.

Me neither can you explain alittle why this would cause a problem (i'm a newbie)

27th Jun 2010 8:39pm

lrdaft

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Location: United Kingdom
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steering angle sensor fault is registered because wheel is out of alignment
this causes hdc fault,which is controled by abs,because abs is in limp home mode air susp shuts down as it recieves various data from abs on the can bus line
i have repaired many of these after many visits to main dealer never had fault reappear

28th Jun 2010 10:03am

paul_h_8

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lrdaft wrote:
steering angle sensor fault is registered because wheel is out of alignment
this causes hdc fault,which is controled by abs,because abs is in limp home mode air susp shuts down as it recieves various data from abs on the can bus line
i have repaired many of these after many visits to main dealer never had fault reappear

Thanks for above, my steering is out very very slightly and i've had no problems with suspension but ill get a 4 wheel lazer alignment done and make sure steering wheel is straight. Thanks once again

28th Jun 2010 10:12am

brad s1

Member Since: 23 Sep 2008
Location: Boston
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lrdaft wrote:
steering angle sensor fault is registered because wheel is out of alignment
this causes hdc fault,which is controled by abs,because abs is in limp home mode air susp shuts down as it recieves various data from abs on the can bus line
i have repaired many of these after many visits to main dealer never had fault reappear

Very interesting... and I must admit, the alignment has been screwed for a long time...

Your input is greatly appreciated, I'll get it down to the alignment shop asap

28th Jun 2010 4:31pm

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brad s1 wrote:
lrdaft wrote:
no what i mean is the steering wheel in the centre position when driving on a straight road?

it actually isn't, the alignment of the car does seem off... slight right dip to the steering wheel to go straight.

I've never seen an L322 FFRR which doesn't have a steering wheel tilted slightly to the right when driving straight ahead.

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28th Jun 2010 6:01pm

brad s1

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Location: Boston
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RRUK wrote:
brad s1 wrote:
lrdaft wrote:
no what i mean is the steering wheel in the centre position when driving on a straight road?

it actually isn't, the alignment of the car does seem off... slight right dip to the steering wheel to go straight.

I've never seen an L322 FFRR which doesn't have a steering wheel tilted slightly to the right when driving straight ahead. Even new ones!

Car needs an alignment anyway... Worth a try, I've tried many things to correct this. Dealer as well as independents have looked at the car, updated software, replaced sensors, etc etc etc to no avail.

28th Jun 2010 6:44pm

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