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Weegie Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 3247 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am still chasing this. I removed the bridge in the relay socket and replaced with a 4 pin relay. I now get ignition switched cigar lighter and ancillary sockets BUT only in ignition position 2 or with the engine running. I have checked with Cheet2 and he has a similar situation. I have spoken with an auto electrician and he has tried different relays without success. Either there is a specific relay that is needed or some wiring change.
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Weegie Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 3247 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Afraid it is being more complicated than that. A 4 pin relay gives the same symptoms. Live on ignition 2 but not on ignition 1 (despite the circuit diagram indicating Ignition 1).
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Weegie Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 3247 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Pietertje,
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nicedayforit Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Beside the Solway Posts: 3979 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Weegie,
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Weegie Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 3247 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I now understand what you mean. |
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pietertje Member Since: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 152 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Weegie thanks for your thoughts. I wish to make all (or at least the aux sockets) ignition switched.
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nicedayforit Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Beside the Solway Posts: 3979 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You need a 12V 20A 4 pin relay only, 24V will not work.
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espaceboy Member Since: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Fae Fife Posts: 86 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am planning to wire up a smart relay by taking a tap off the existing rear socket to give a second switched 12v socket
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nicedayforit Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Beside the Solway Posts: 3979 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Having a poke around to see whats involved in changing my permanently live cigar sockets to ignition controlled I found this gadget in the fuseboard position where a relay should be mounted for ignition controlled.
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pietertje Member Since: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 152 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi Nicedayforit,
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nicedayforit Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Beside the Solway Posts: 3979 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not so much a fuse as a bridging piece, the two contacts provide a link between terminals 30 and 87 of a normal 30A relay.
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bgennette Member Since: 13 Jan 2013 Location: Newcastle Posts: 88 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It appears as though the first L322s had the cigar outlets (and cubby box AUX outlet) wired directly from Fuse 1 (rear fuses). Then (fairly quickly) a more complex set up was introduced to allow for different configurations in different jurisdictions. For instance in Australia the design rules (in 2002) required cigar lighters to be off when the ignition is off whilst in the UK they should remain on.
Note the relay socket is a European layout, wired differently to relays used in the US or Australia. Can anyone confirm this wiring for models later than 2005? The simple link (shown in the picture) seems to indicate that pin87A is internally connected to pin30. Other posters have shown a yellow bridging module that connects pin87 to pin 30, which I think would be the best way to wire it. For Australian owners who want their cigar sockets ON all the time (to charge phones, etc) a simple bridge can be made with 2 x utilux male pins and a short piece of wire. ![]() Just pull out the relay and plug in the bridge. Pin87 to pin30.
bye. |
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BackinBlack Member Since: 10 Dec 2018 Location: Manchester Posts: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi All, after a little help please. I followed these instructions and replaced the small link with a relay and all was fine until I plugged a mini fridge in the passenger cigar lighter and subsequently blew something. I restored power by removing the relay and putting the link back from 87 to 87a but now I have some strange voltages. I have replaced fuse 1 (don't know if the old one was blown cos I dropped it in the wheel arch) and now have the below readings. Does anyone please have any info as to how the relay is fed as there is nothing in my copy of the rave manual, not that makes sense anyway. I did notice fuse 2 in the glove box had blown and have replaced it but that just fixed the rear blowers. Many thanks |
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