They only sell something you can put in, not take out and lets face it there are loads of things you can buy that you shouldn't use because of some regulation of other, see how many items, even in Halfords" say "NOT FOR STREET USE"

Totally agree on the refill, get it done professionally at a specialist, you will have a much longer lasting and colder system...

And then leave it on all year round, it will keep the system in much better condition.... Pete
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Sometimes life in 3rd world countries is just easier, although not better for the environment. They bleed the coolant and refill from a bottle, that's it and that's all. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Thanks Guys.

As suggested, I'll source an air con specialist out.

I must say, had the air con system leak tested, cleaned and a re-gas by a Land Rover independent and it's icy cold now. The levels were very low, which is odd as my Mazda (10 years old) has never been re-gased and is still icy cold as the day I bought it. I am hoping I won't need to have this done again for a few years at least.

I've used one of those halfords kits on an old Fiat i had, it worked a treat.

The can apparently contains oil and some sort of leak sealer. I would imagine the leak sealer is similar in principle to the stuff you can add to oil or cooling systems. It'll seal very minor leaks but it's not going to fix a burst hose or condenser that's had a rock go through it.

Not sure if i'd bother using it on anything decent, for the money you may as well get someone with a proper machine to do it.

As for how they get away with selling it, i suspect the rules are probably slightly different for amateur use. For example an amateur can tow a car with a rope, but doing it professionally you need a solid bar. If your driving a lorry professionally you need a tachograph (in most cases) and DCPC, but as private use you dont. It's also may be the case that it's not illegal to sell the stuff but it is technically illegal for someone to use it. Like you or I can go and buy a gas boiler from a plumbers, but you're not really allowed to install it unless you're a qualified gas safe plumber. Sadly though a lot of these industry bodies who over see training and certification are quite protectionist and interpret EU directives and laws to suit their own agendas, in some industries these organisations blatantly tell people this or that is illegal without doing one of their courses when in fact it isn't. (i'm speaking generally here, just giving 'possible' reasons as to why Halfords might be able to sell these kits)

ive had problems with mine
it had a leak in the condensor radiator which has now been changed
im still not sure its cold enough

does anyone know what temprature the air should be on the coldest setting coming out of the air vents?? 2011 5ltr V8 SC stornoway grey, ebony & ivory seats
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I checked my last summer when the outside air was 23C.
With the ac set to coolest and the fan set to 4 lights on I got a temperature at the outlet nearest the drivers door cycling between 3.5C and 4C. This was with a probe set into the grille opening.
I was happy with that.
I don't think it is physically possible to get lower without the evaporator freezing up.
As I understand it the cabin is designed to go no lower than 16C.

the WM mentions 3 to 4 degrees centigrade ... ... - .- -.




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thats great guys
i was getting 6 today
if i hit the max aircon button then it comes down but the fans are going mad 2011 5ltr V8 SC stornoway grey, ebony & ivory seats
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still on the quest for proper air con

ive had the condensing radiator replaced as it had a leak, re gased again and it does get cold when i turn the fan on to full speed manually

whislt using the auto control and just setting the temp to lowest setting if its hot in side the car the fan speed doesnt seam to get any faster.
ive had it checked by an independan and they think all is well

surely the idea of the auto setting is when its hot inside the car the fan speeds up to cool the interior down if you have the temp setting on the lowest ?

can any one shed light, i might have to go to a main dealers 2011 5ltr V8 SC stornoway grey, ebony & ivory seats
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With mine on the auto setting, if it's hot, the fan comes on at a high speed and then drops back as the temperature inside stabilises. So I agree with your premise. John
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If the gas pressure is low it wont go full blast, it takes a little time for the compressor to bring the system pressure up, so normally there is a brief pause while it does this before it comes on full blast.

If the little sampling fan in clogged up with muck it can fool the system in to not thinking it's hot enough, on the RR i think it's behind the little grille on teh AC panel.

ok i will try cleaning that out

when on auto the fan speed doesnt change at all and the system has been re gased  2011 5ltr V8 SC stornoway grey, ebony & ivory seats
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Plus one on the temperature sensor. There is a post or two about how to clean them on the forum and probably in the Wiki as well

Can't find it in the Wiki but I bet if we ask Stan nicely...................... MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Edit. Sorry this was for the OP, didn't get all the way to the end of the post!

I could be wrong but it may not be coming on at all. Your revs should go UP slightly when the a/c is ON, and decrease when switched off. (That's what mine does and it works perfectly) The fact that yours does the opposite seems wrong?