This was us the first day we collected it in 2015, we store at Gatwick CC site so booked a pitch for the night to put all the stuff in it

Too many gimmicks in New vans, just like cars today, just more to go wrong

The car industry s perfect n comparison! Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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The problem is, like in the car industry, weight.

Everything is getting lighter. Cars are getting lighter, but folks still want big vans so they have to get lighter too.

Which means that everything gets pared down to the bare minimum in the mass market vans.

I went in the new Elddis Avante 866 the other day and it just seemed basic. The features were there but the whole thing seemed to lack finishing touches, all of which add weight.

Now on the other hand they are adding stuff like central heating to more expensive vans and what are basically mini combi-boilers to the vans. Great but over complex!

Don't get me wrong in my perfect world I'd have an airstream towed with a 5.0sc L405. But life isn't that kind so I have to make do with a slightly leaky 2010 Lunar and a 4.4 L322..... oh well it's not that bad really...  There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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My Buccaneer is played at 2000kg and has more gadgets than you can shake a stick at! Underfloor heating for example, all weight as you say but you still don't notice it on the back of a 4.4.... Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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First trip out in our new van, France for a month. Picture taken at the Eurotunnel terminal waiting for our train last Monday morning.

Tasty set up. ) Agueroooooooooo. 93-20
I swear you will never see anything like this ever again....watch it..drink it in.

thats a very nice combo Mark.  ... - .- -.




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Very nice, Mark. Have good holiday. John
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that looks quite long for a single axle! nice though, happy holidays..  Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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Hi Stu,
Yes, it's probably as long as you get for a single axle. It's based on an Alko delta chassis, which is rare for the U.K. I believe.

Buz, how long is it? What brand is it? Looks like an Adria. Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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Yes, it's an Adria Isonzo Platinum. It's 8.250 metres long with a 8 ft wide body.

Wow, I knew it looked long! It like most European vans will have a long A-Frame I presume for stability. Be a piece of cake to manouver, unlike the twin axle which fights its wheels when reversing. Mind you driving a FFRR means it can fight all it wants, it'll always loose....

Just to get things in context, my twin axle Buccaneer is : 8.140m long and 8' wide. Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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Just towed the tent to Chatsworth, got off the M1 and onto the dual carriageway that runs to Chesterfiekd, and they're only resurfacing it... with her and chipping
15 not all the way down to Chesterfiekd