I was driving through some very heavy rain and spray on the M40 earlier today and was passed by several L322's and 405's all of which had their lights on. The L405's disappeared into the rain and spray after about 75 yds and were just not visible from the rear.
The L322's however (2002 - 2012) remained clearly visible for nearly double that distance.
It's just a personal observation but a £100K motor with the latest LED lighting technology should have 'better' rear lighting in poor visibility that the older model it has replaced.
I realise that no matter how good your rear lamps are some numpty can still collide with you but I was glad I had my L322 rear lamps and not the L405 type. As I say it's just an observation. Travelling around in circles again.

Gone the way of many things over the last few years - form over function I'm afraid....... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

the FF has two bulbs on the 2002-2009 and two pretty bright leds on the 2010-2012 years and i agree these are much better than the very small leds on the new range rover.. ... - .- -.




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mjdronfield wrote:

Gone the way of many things over the last few years - form over function I'm afraid.......

........so if anyone feels the need to replace their L405 with an L322, in the interests of safety, then i will sacrifice my 2008 L322 for an L405.........i know its a selfless act, but i'm prepared to do it to help others!... just the kind of guy i am

 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

I'm sure the lights will comply with all current European safety standards for illumination

Slightly off topic - I love the rear and side of the L405 - looks very swish! However, the front IMHO looks bloody awful - like any budget Korean car, and is already looking dated. Perhaps a facelift could sort this  2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Ahhhhhh......an L405 upgraded to an L322..........

Just the ticket. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

I wouldn't turn down a 405, however I'd be using my rear fog lights as well as normal rear lights in heavy rain and spray if I had one. Real world conditions trump styling and EU safety standards any day. Travelling around in circles again.

"Real world conditions trump styling and EU safety standards any day."

.......yeah, just ask the Evoque stylists

Please don't use Fogs in heavy rain / spray as they mask your Brake lights

not on the 2002-2009 l322, the brake lights are separate, anyways you have the third brake light for additional illumination.. ... - .- -.




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mpirie wrote:

mjdronfield wrote:

Gone the way of many things over the last few years - form over function I'm afraid.......

........so if anyone feels the need to replace their L405 with an L322, in the interests of safety, then i will sacrifice my 2008 L322 for an L405.........i know its a selfless act, but i'm prepared to do it to help others!... just the kind of guy i am

stan wrote:

not on the 2002-2009 l322, the brake lights are separate, anyways you have the third brake light for additional illumination..

Its the intensity of rear fogs in spray mask the illumination of the brake lights plus if you really need the lights your Road speed should be vastly reduced Not the placement

I wish my FFRR was here yet so I could use here in the pouring rain we had this morning driving into Singapore. The nice thing here is that you can add all kinds of lights (like I plan to do with my reflectors, insert the LED lights I bought online, white (to help with backing up) and red (to come on with the brake lights).

On top of that, a lot of "fairy lights" are used here. Something I WON'T do by the way  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Eugene,

I'm in Singapore this week....  Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB