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chawks



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Opinions on this FFRR please

Evening all - seen this on ebay and was wondering what you think of it - does it look suspect or dodgy to you ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271331057001?ssP...1423.l2649

Thanks

Post #225380 26th Nov 2013 7:53pm
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Contraband



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Apart from it being an insurance write off?? To be honest, it looks worth the money. If the service history is correct I would have it for 6k.. You could get your money's worth out of it over the next few years. Low mileage as well... Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Post #225381 26th Nov 2013 8:03pm
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Mr Tee



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Nice looking car, if everything stacks up, could be a good one.

Post #225383 26th Nov 2013 8:18pm
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It looks pretty tidy, so long as the paperwork is in order and it drives and looks like it does in the pics then it seems cheap enough to be worth a punt.

As contra says its low mileage as well, plus new turbo, installed by the MD! So could indicate a conscientious owner.

Is only hse spec so slightly less kit than a vogue but it's kinda academic at that age. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Post #225384 26th Nov 2013 8:19pm
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chawks



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Contraband wrote:
Apart from it being an insurance write off?? To be honest, it looks worth the money. If the service history is correct I would have it for 6k.. You could get your money's worth out of it over the next few years. Low mileage as well...


Cat C though which is the least serious insurance catorgory I thought? I thought it looked it reasonable for the money

Post #225386 26th Nov 2013 8:23pm
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Contraband



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Cat D is the lowest damage category.... Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

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northernmonkeyjones



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From which car check website
Insurance Loss Categories - Quick reference
* Category A - Must be crushed. All of it.
* Category B - Vehicle may not be returned to road but parts may be sold.
* Category C - Repairable. Significant damage. Cost of the repair is more than book value of vehicle at dealer rates.
* Category D - Repairable. Probably non-structural damage. May have been economic to repair, but insurer doesn't want to.
* Category X - Repairable. Minor Damage
Insurance Loss Categories - In detail
Category A The vehicle may not be resold it must be crushed. Severely damaged, total burnout or flood damage with no serviceable parts, or already a stripped out shell. DVLA will require a "Notification of Destruction".

Category B The vehicle may not be resold. It will have been damaged beyond economical repair, usually with major structural damage. The DVLA will require "Notification of Destruction" but parts can be removed and sold on.
Category C Repairable salvage. Usually applies to vehicles with significant damage and where the cost of repairs exceeds the book value. It can be sold for repair but must have VIC(Vehicle Identity Check) inspection before returning to the road. V5 documents are returned to DVLA and recorded as category C vehicles. You can re-apply for registration on the original identity once the VIC inspection has been done. VIC inspection and re-registration removes the Category C classification, but evidence it was at one time Category C remains on the vehicle's record at the DVLA and so will appear on a vehicle data check.
What is a Vehicle Identity Check and how does it work?(taken from the VOSA's site) The Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) has been introduced to help reduce car crime. It is intended to deter criminals from disguising stolen cars with the identity of written off ones. When an insurance company ‘writes off’ a car, (Category A, B or C) they notify DVLA and a VIC marker is placed on the DVLA record. DVLA will not issue a Registration Certificate (V5C) or a Vehicle Licence Reminder (V11) to a car with a VIC marker against it. In order to remove the VIC marker the car needs to be inspected by VOSA to confirm its identity. When the car passes the VIC, the marker is removed. The VIC will be carried out by VOSA. It will involve comparing the car against information held by DVLA, such as the vehicle identification number, make, model, colour and engine number. The VIC will also compare the record of previous accident damage with evidence of damage repair as well as checking other components to confirm the age and identity of the car.
Will the VIC confirm that the vehicle is roadworthy? No. The VIC is designed to confirm the identity of the car and does not assess the quality of the repair. You should seek independent expert opinion as to whether the car is roadworthy. If whilst carrying out the check the inspector notices a serious defect which would make the car dangerous to drive, then they will issue a notice which prohibits the car being used. Once it has been made roadworthy the prohibition can be removed.
Note: I understand motorbikes falling into this category do not have to undergo a VIC inspection so will warrant close investigation and clarification of identity.
Category D Repairable salvage. Minimal damage, probably not structural, but insurer does not want to repair, even though it might be economic to do so. Often stolen and recovered after claim has been paid. Or it maybe a vehicle where parts are difficult to obtain so a quick repair is unlikely. Does not need VIC inspection to return to road. Notification will appear in your vehicle history check There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Post #225388 26th Nov 2013 8:29pm
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chawks



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Aah thanks for the info regarding the catagorys. How much would in general a cat c knock off a cars value?

Post #225390 26th Nov 2013 8:31pm
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northernmonkeyjones



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Keep your eye on the for sale board on here as we'll there is always something for sale! There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
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Post #225391 26th Nov 2013 8:35pm
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chawks



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I do check the for sale section every few days. I used to a 03 plate v8 running on lpg. Very nice but not sure I'd have a petrol again - depends what comes up I guess

Post #225393 26th Nov 2013 8:39pm
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Contraband



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It gets to the point it "is what it is"... If you are going to keep it for some years then the cat c becomes almost irrelevant as you will more than get you money's worth from owning it.
It appears to have been looked after and had money spent on its upkeep, which is more important than damage in the past that has been repaired to a safe acceptable standard.
At that money it appears good value all round. Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Post #225396 26th Nov 2013 8:48pm
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chawks



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I would be a car to keep until it died so the cat c isn't really too much of an issue.

Post #225398 26th Nov 2013 8:50pm
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nicksaab



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Just be aware that some insurance companies will not insure Cat C and Cat D vehicles and if you don't declare they can void your insurance and fail to pay out. Some of the confused market comparers will not quote either on them. Current Fleet:-
2018 Discovery 5 3.0 HSE
2021 Ford Ranger Wildtrack
2019 Ford Mustang Bullitt 5.0 V8
1993 Defender 90 200TDI Pickup

Gone - not forgotten
2016 L405 4.4 SDV8 Vogue SE
2012 L322 4.4 Westminster
2004 L322 4.4 V8 Autobiography LE
2000 P38 RR 4.0 HSE (ex Clarkson test car)

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paul271



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I'd have that if all checked out in the flesh.

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Wink Wink

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