Don't you dare! Its bad enough its likely to be the one at the flywheel end

Having known of the worst injectors of all times fitted to 16v HDi engines often writing off their heads ill be trying a few methods

1. Soaking in wd40 the night before

2. Soaking in petrol

3. Heating up the engine if possible and then cooling the injector

4. One of the YouTube methods  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Well the injector is now soaking in a mix of GT85 and WD40 and BioD

I got the inlet manifold off just enough to loosen the unions on the HP fuel inlet to the injector and god is it clogged with crude in that inlet manifold!! EGR will be blanked off as part of this job I reckon

anyway got that feed pipe off and the 2 small bolts holding the c clamp around the injector but it wont budge Think i may have to bite the bullet and get an injector removal tool

Also removed the interior air inlet box and there was loads of rotting muck behind it so thats been cleaned and given me an idea on how easy it will be to block it for off road use

I'll take some pics as i do it all back up and do a write up in a PDF and stick it in my gallery to help others.

The leak off test compared injector 6 and injector 1.

Injector 1 leaked burger all.
Injector 6 just let all the fuel through

Craig i did try with the manifold inplace but as i dont have a 17mm injector removal socket i couldnt get purchase on it with an adjustable spanner  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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PS CTC is this the kind of thing you have??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diesel-injector-...1c2facb665

Im not sure how they can work as the fuel inlet is at an angle from the actual length of the injector so it would be pulling across the injector unless thats the idea to pull it out? FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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With all the injector wiring diconected turn engine over but put something over injector to stop it shooting out do this with engine warm it usually loosens them

I'll have to get it warm now which means re-attaching half the stuff i took off

I tried cranking it with the nuts left about 1-2mm above the C-Clamp but nothing

Will let the battery juice up while im doing some work this afternoon and see if it helps but not holding out hope  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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And some documents i found to help future peeps

http://home.tiscali.nl/luuk60/

Easy parts browser

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Seda...ay/browse/
NOTE only some bits apply to the L322 and the turbo is vacuum controlled  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Hi Kingpleb, one further thing to check whilst you're at it. I got rough running and car wouldn't do over 30mph about a year ago (thread http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic10722.html?highlight=fuel refers) and though it was a fuel injector, but turned out to be corroded contacts on the fuel injector wiring loom (@£60 part ) so may be worth you doing a continuity test on the wiring loom contacts if you've removed it. Steve

Main car : FFRR L405 Vogue SDV8
Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

Checked the loom out and the connectors all look fine takes a while to look with a torch and a floodlight but all done

Had a few minutes tonight so got a can of coke and soaked the oils up with some kitchen roll.

Will let the can of coke warm a little and then go and apply to the injector surrounds and see if it helps

Been let down by 2 different people who have said they would be able to help and not showed up or even called me back.

Also one of the leak off pipe t pieces crumbled on me tonight so will stop by BMW in the morning and see if they have any in stock which i doubt, but there is more chance of them having them than LR  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f89/ch...s-t124159/

That might help some others in the future! the rasp is well worth buying as the inlet manifold is stupid in design  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Ah well, was worth checking the loom anyway as it would have been the cheapest fix if found to be the problem. Good luck Kingpleb Steve

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Other car : Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
Past cars : FFRR L322 Vogue TD6 SE (Sept 2006 MY07) ; LandCruiser SWB ; 4-Runner ; Supras; XJS V12 LeMans

Well been let down totally by the plank who said he would be able to come round yesterday after days of waiting for a callback and then said he was too busy to do it as promised but would be able to (again!) possibly come by midweek. Just told him to call me when he is free as i know he won't do as he doesn't return calls now!

Having to bite the bullet and rent the tool to get it fixed as I'm in court tomorrow but a friend has lent me their car to get me there and back for the time i really need a car to try and see my son

Getting through loads of niggly things in my main office as well from car sharing but its strange being in a yaris to work an back, and now im upto doing the OCS-LYNC2013 task that i really detest  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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FOR SAKE!!

I got this REMOVAL TOOL from this company,
http://www.hutsonprecision.co.uk/
And guess what!!

The socket doesn't fit the injector top!! So all it does is try and spin the electrical part ontop!!

Now I have to go to halfrauds and find something that will do the job and then see if i can finish the job off!!

They haven't answered their phones or replied to voicemails so i've had to raise a complaint thru ebay and if no response by lunch i'll raise a dispute and get my money back as this is stupid!! The socket is just the tiniest bit too large and GRRR this is turning into a crapper! FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Sending the tool back today.

I tried it And it wouldn't even fit the injector solenoid so couldn't remove that. As a trial fit i tried the main frame part to see if it would have worked.

Low and behold the studs that would support the unit aren't anywhere on the top and I'm not letting it apply that much pressure onto plastic components. I could only get 3 of the legs on anything possibly strong and even then one was at a diagonal angle and it was the one on its own on that side

The long threaded section that would screw into the lower injector was actually bent and the support studs had 1 leg partially broken off.

The tools were quite dirty as well.

The injector socket was meant to fit snuggly on but looked like it had seen better days with marks and such like all over it and was loose so started to spin the electrical connector on the top before the solenoid section.

I've told them I'm sending it back for a full refund.

They Also stipulate some rules as part of the rental service but then when the package turned up they had changed and state they only accept returns thru Royal Mail... This will now cost me £25 to send back even though it would only cost me £5 to drive there and back as they NEVER answer the phone, emails, or voicemails.

I could not in good conscience recommend this company to anyone in the world.

Im now trying to find an injector removal specialist thats mobile and will no doubt cost me a small amount of money.

I've thought about the slide hammer type tools for about £20 off the bay but just need the car back now so have no real choice now.

Hopefully i can save at least 1 more person from going through this pain. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Well good news!
Danny from
www.autointelligent.com

Came over this afternoon at very short notice request from myself and the injectors are now out, seat faces cleaned and I'm just grabbing my lunch and doing some WFH and then going to continue the refit of the new injectors, plumb it all up and head off for a drive to test them out

Took about 30-40 minutes all in and even gave my neighbour some advice on his M3.


For £60 it was a lot cheaper than the rip off rental tool above that's on its way back and I wish I'd done it from the start now. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Well Injectors replaced and after a quick run while the engine is smoother the issue is still there

See this video for what is going.



Once the engine has been started it needs to fully cool down before it will start again or needs easy start type stuff to get going. I only need the smallest squirt of this and its direct into the inlet manifold, the inlet pipe is then reattached and clamped back on and then i go round and start it. Its not a rushed or speedy process but as i hate using the stuff i like to use the tiniest amount possible and let it stay in the air as much as possible.


Can i disconnect the ECU and see if that flushes it out?

Land ranger wont come out to me and have said if i get it over to them for friday they could have a look at it then.. Problem is i may not make it all the way there! and if i go say half way tonight and then the other half tomorrow at least it would cool down plenty between visits!

Anyone any ideas on this at all?

All i can think is fuel rail pressure sensor fault (seems to tally with the fault codes so far generated) or high pressure pump on the fritz. which doesn't happen to often in the BMW's but does still happen and not as much as the injectors! FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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