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McSwerve



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X5 to FFRR

Anybody go from an X5 to a FFRR?

If so any thoughts regarding the ownership experience. Performance, ride comfort, practicality, running costs, off road abilities Wink

Many thanks for your thoughts.

Post #12778 9th Feb 2010 12:18pm
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Sidney



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Cairns Blue

I went from an X5 to Disco3 to Range Rover. No comparison really. The Disco and Rangy beat it hands down. Yes the X5 does handle like a sports saloon but the ride quality and driver enjoyment on either of the landys is much better. Boots are bigger and more useable, I had a 3.0 litre petrol X5 and it was dam thirsty, about 22mpg. My chipped TD6 is returning close to 30 mpg, on a long run its over 30.. X5 off road.... I did try it a few times.... as you would imagine the Rangerovers are streets ahead. And this is coming from someone who was'nt a Landrover fan untill buying the Disco3 out of necessity. Wink

Post #12779 9th Feb 2010 12:26pm
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Macdaddy



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Not owned but i did test drive a few X5's before i decided on the RR.

Found the drive to be way more car like, with less wallow.

However i preferred the status/presence of the RR. TDV8 HST Sport **Current**

4.4 V8 Autobiography and 22" wheels **Gone**

Post #12795 9th Feb 2010 6:20pm
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Also test drove a few X5s in my day, but the RR just has a presence the BMW will NEVER have.

You will drive the FFRR differently as a result of owning it so comparing the ride can be a bit academic. A chipped TD6 is pretty quick off the mark and has guts of torque. Discovery 4 HSE
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JMC



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I'm tempted to ask, "what's an X5" but that would just be sarcastic.......... Whistle

I see lots of them, but I never actually notice them when I'm driving the FFRR. That sums it up. Cool The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom Smile

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ive drove a few X5's and never really had any reason to dislike them other than when theres snow on the ground and they get stuck Thumbs Up onto no6 Range Rover

Everyone needs a hobby

Post #12814 9th Feb 2010 8:16pm
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Vogue



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Poor mans Range Rover Sport Confused

Post #12819 9th Feb 2010 8:41pm
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inkiboo



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Switzerland 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

Vogue wrote:
Poor mans Range Rover Sport Confused


I'd have a X5 over a Range Rover Sport any day of the week. The twin turbo diesel engine in the X5 is better than 3.6 TDV8 and X5 has a much nicer interior, even over the 2010 models.

Post #12860 10th Feb 2010 10:40am
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Vogue



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really

Post #12862 10th Feb 2010 10:46am
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EDWARD757



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2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

To be fair I am still slightly torn as the 35d engine is fantastic and should be much cheaper to run (fuel and tax). However we will most likely go for a FFRR as that is what we really want and I doubt i will be forever looking at X5s wishing I had bought one of them instead.
I would also be VERY cheesed off if during the next inclement weather, the X% refused to climb the hill out of the village. The TDV8 should be able to do it if anything can!
The X5 is a very good car but we did not get the feeling that the TDV8 gave.
I would have a X5 over the RRS but neither are a comparison to the proper RR...in my opinion.
Kind regards,
Ed

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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inkiboo wrote:
Vogue wrote:
Poor mans Range Rover Sport Confused


I'd have a X5 over a Range Rover Sport any day of the week. The twin turbo diesel engine in the X5 is better than 3.6 TDV8 and X5 has a much nicer interior, even over the 2010 models.


In your opinion of course....

I believe and sure most on this forum will agree that the "Lion" TDV8 twin-turbocharged Diesel V8 producing 272 PS (268 hp/200 kW) and 640 N·m (472 ft·lbf) is streets ahead of most other Diesels out there including the very latest X5 "Twin Turbo"(M57TUD30) Diesel 286 PS (210 kW; 282 hp)@4000, 580 N·m (430 lb·ft) - Its the extra Torque that makes the difference ... (just ask Clarkson) Very Happy


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Post #12883 10th Feb 2010 12:16pm
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Vogue



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The X5 isn't even a proper off roader, stick a set of mud terrains on any RR - Sport included - and it will go almost anywhere, and it will tow a 3500kg tripple axle stock trailer full of 6 snorting bullocks.

Sorry a BM doesn't even come close, a few shooting friends have X5 and X6's and they aspire to a RR and regret buying their BM's.

How did Clarkson describe the X5 - can't quite remember, he is the GOD of Motoring afterall Cool Laughing

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Vogue wrote:
The X5 isn't even a proper off roader, stick a set of mud terrains on any RR - Sport included - and it will go almost anywhere, and it will tow a 3500kg tripple axle stock trailer full of 6 snorting bullocks.

Sorry a BM doesn't even come close, a few shooting friends have X5 and X6's and they aspire to a RR and regret buying their BM's.

How did Clarkson describe the X5 - can't quite remember, he is the GOD of Motoring afterall Cool Laughing


Many quotes including:

It makes you wonder. Next time the road ahead is closed, could you escape up the embankment and across the fields in an X5? I think not. But in a Range Rover you could. I know, because I’ve done it. Jeremy Clarkson - Sunday Times: November 4, 2007 Laughing

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Vogue



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Oh Yes, Clarkson is good Cool


I love Clarkson Laughing Laughing Rolling with laughter

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Vogue wrote:
Oh Yes, Clarkson is good Cool


I love Clarkson Laughing Laughing Rolling with laughter


Theres more.......

Like the original (BMW X5), it’s clever from a technical standpoint but times have to be good for a car like this to make sense. And they aren’t. So it doesn’t. If you need a tall off-road car, buy a Range Rover diesel. If you need a five-seater that is fun, buy an M5. Don’t try to buy something that combines both things because what the X5 M proves is that really, it can’t be done. Jeremy Clarkson - Times Online Driving Laughing

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