As the title says, I'm curious to find out if anyone knows why Land Rover switched from Pirelli Scorpion Zero M+S to Continental Cross Contact UHP as the standard tyre for their 20" wheels?

Are they better or worse all round and is this a step forwards or backwards?

Andy. 2015 L405 SDV8 Autobiography, Indus Silver with Black Pack.
SWMBO: 22MY Defender 110 HSE X Dynamic, Gondwana Stone.
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Gone: 2013 Jaguar XKR Convertible, Italian Racing Red with Ivory Seats
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Gone: 2003 Epsom Green 4.4i Vogue, LPG, Mk4 Nav, BMW Bluetooth Phone, Hybrid Tv Tuner,

car manufactures send out tenders to tyre company's and who ever can supply the cheapest price gets the contract...
its big business for the tyre co's cos they get repeat business when the tyres are worn or damaged as most replace with the same make... ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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My 2010 had conti summer tyres but replaced them with a set of 2012 pirelli all weather recently

Contis were pirelli are superb  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Contis are just shat if you come across anything with mud or snow. anything without tarmac basically.

I had them on some 20's a while ago but hated them when trying to use them in offroad situations they were far from good. The 18" goodyear wranglers i had were far far better and the pirellis are nearly as good for me  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
Mantec Sump Guard, Rigid Load liner, MY10 BT upgrade.

dis-agree re conti's, i had over sized RRS ones and they did admirably on salisbury plain and a very dodgy journey back from brussels in december 2011.. ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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Hmmm, I dont really want this thread to turn into which tyre is best for on or off road use as there is plenty of information on the forum already for that debate. BUT I live up a dirt track and although it can hardly be called "off roading" it can be a bit of an issue and we do ocassionally get snow, even down south I was always led to believe that Land Rover use standard specification vehicles for their "Experience" centres including tyres which, whenever I have been, always seem to perform well albeit in a "Manufacturers" controlled environment, therefore I can't see them changing to Conti's if they are really that crap

Also do we know what the standard 20" tyre will be on the L405........ They seem to have done ok in Morocco

Andy. 2015 L405 SDV8 Autobiography, Indus Silver with Black Pack.
SWMBO: 22MY Defender 110 HSE X Dynamic, Gondwana Stone.
Gone: 2014 Discovery 4 HSE Luxury Firenze Red
Gone: 2006MY Java Black TD6 Autobiography
Gone: 2013 Jaguar XKR Convertible, Italian Racing Red with Ivory Seats
Gone: 2010MY Stornoway Grey TDV8 Vogue SE with RSE
Gone: 2008 Disco 3 HSE, Hybrid Tv + Retro-fit RSE System & DVD
Gone: 2003 Epsom Green 4.4i Vogue, LPG, Mk4 Nav, BMW Bluetooth Phone, Hybrid Tv Tuner,

Pretty sure Contis have been standard on the 20" Supercharged since 2005/6. Not certain about the Vogue SE 20" though.

All post 2005/6 Vogue models 19" where Pirelli Scorpian.

Andy cannot speak for why a car manufacturer chooses to change tyres from one brand to another and agree with Stan on this however I can speak for how Pirellis have always performed for me in fields or on snow. Pirelli were fitted std to 18" on P38s so the relationship with Pirelli goes back a long time. They have never let me down hence why I have just shed our £234 per corner to replace on my 20" 5 spokes on a 2007 L322. You dont know what you are missing until you try it but with the cost of tyres what they are I would stay with what I know ie what was on the car when I got it assuming I was happy or would go with a fellow owners recommendation. Its not necessarily as simple as that was what the manufacturer fitted so should fit these again.

I think, as stated elsewhere, that the off road performance is going to be broadly similar of both tyres as they are used on the Experience vehicles. However, my experience between the two types over 100k+ miles is that the Conti's tend to have a very soft shoulder which can result in the tyre being illegal on the outer edge long before the rest of the tyre is worn out. The Pirellis seem to wear more evenly.

Otherwise its down to purchase price for LR themselves. 2019 D5 HSE Lux SDV6 Indus
55 D3 SE
98 MX5 1.8 RS
gone 17 older variants of FFRR

I think, as stated elsewhere, that the off road performance is going to be broadly similar of both tyres as they are used on the Experience vehicles. However, my experience between the two types over 100k+ miles is that the Conti's tend to have a very soft shoulder which can result in the tyre being illegal on the outer edge long before the rest of the tyre is worn out. The Pirellis seem to wear more evenly.

Otherwise its down to purchase price for LR themselves. 2019 D5 HSE Lux SDV6 Indus
55 D3 SE
98 MX5 1.8 RS
gone 17 older variants of FFRR

Purchaser of LR receives listing with approved tyres and starts f ing the suppliers. The one that bends most is getting the deal.
I'm in that business for years ... on the purchase site

Just to throw another question out there,

How come my style 11 20" takeoffs from dan had michelin lattitude diamaris,

Were these ever standard or a user specifiable option? There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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