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Danwilderspin



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Check trailer lights?

Hi there I have a fault when the trailer module is plugged in. When there is no light board connected it says check trailer lights ... when there is it works fine... any ideas? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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AJGalaxy2012



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

If you have a 13 pin socket check the contact that closes when a plug is inserted. BMW i3 Electric Car
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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

I have the standard 7 - is there a similar thing on that? I just have a rubber cover? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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AJGalaxy2012



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not that I know of. I would certainly check the back of the socket and make sure its clean and dry though. BMW i3 Electric Car
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nfm



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When you say no light board is it the case you have the socket plugged in but there are no lights for the socket to “talk to”. If so then that seems intuitive and it is just saying lights aren’t working as intended? In which case nothing to worry about? I get the warning but that is because I have a duff lead in one trailer indicator.

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Weegie



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I would say nfm is right. Mine is slightly different in that, if I have the trailer attached and I switch the engine off, I get the "check trailer lights" message but I just assume it is a reminder to do so before towing. John
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Danwilderspin



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Interesting so it knows a trailer is connected even without electrics? I don’t have a genuine towbar though? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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northernmonkeyjones



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Just to throw fuel on the fire.....

Gen wiring in my 07 with the fag packet.

Never had the check trailer lights message in 4/5 years of caravan towing. Connected or not. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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nfm



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I don’t think it will know if just hitched and no electrics plugged in. My suggested scenario is that the electric socket on the trailer is plugged in but then, with no light board, it throws the code - as it should.

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Danwilderspin



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Still trying to track this down...

Looking at it from a different angle - what triggers the green dash indicator? Is there one or two circuits it checks? If so it would be good to know as there would likely be a short? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Arbuckle



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Fuji White

You could be onto something here.
If I hitch up the car transporter trailer with conventional tungsten bulbs, the vehicle recognizes it, requests selection of the type of trailer, and also the indicator repeater operates on the dash.
The caravan has LEDs and does not register at all. The lights work fine but no stability program option or towing repeater (naughty).
I will set up a dummy test board in the spring to test which trailer lights actually trigger the towing software.
Until then, any info would be useful. Forty years of progress. 1972-2012

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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The car senses a trailer is attached by the brake lamp circuit... That is how your car knows the tungsten equipt trailer is there and NOT when the LED trailer is attached, sir... (as the LED's do not draw enough current!)

So, if you're having an issue with a car faulting, telling you there is a trailer when there is not? Then you need to look at the trailer brake lamp circuit on your towing electrics sir Thumbs Up

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Siftah



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nfm wrote:
I don’t think it will know if just hitched and no electrics plugged in. My suggested scenario is that the electric socket on the trailer is plugged in but then, with no light board, it throws the code - as it should.


Could it not sense this though? Extra weight/pressure on the rear air shocks would point to a trailer being hitched, even without the electrics being connected.

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Arbuckle



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Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
The car senses a trailer is attached by the brake lamp circuit... That is how your car knows the tungsten equipt trailer is there and NOT when the LED trailer is attached, sir... (as the LED's do not draw enough current!)

So, if you're having an issue with a car faulting, telling you there is a trailer when there is not? Then you need to look at the trailer brake lamp circuit on your towing electrics sir Thumbs Up


Thanks Cam-Tech-Craig. Bow down
In my case, I can add a dummy load to the LED circuit, increasing the current drawn, and hopefully trick the sensors. Forty years of progress. 1972-2012

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Siftah wrote:
nfm wrote:
I don’t think it will know if just hitched and no electrics plugged in. My suggested scenario is that the electric socket on the trailer is plugged in but then, with no light board, it throws the code - as it should.


Could it not sense this though? Extra weight/pressure on the rear air shocks would point to a trailer being hitched, even without the electrics being connected.


Um... No sir... Far too "Hi-Tech" an idea for FF's I'm afraid... Thumbs Up

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