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stan
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snow mode, front diff unlocked

used the FF in the snow today and switched on the 'snow/gravel' mode and the dash showed the front diff unlocked....

my question to those that know, what benefit does having that diff unlocked give whilst driving in the snow ..

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mpirie



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I noticed the same when I used snow and gravel too when I went "exploring" a couple days ago, or "dicking around" as my wife calls it!

I had the chance to raise the suspension and use low range because of the depth and softness of the snow.

Maybe the front diff only locks on low range?

I'd be interested to hear from more experienced members too.

Mike

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Snow, ?
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you're missing all the fun we're having here Mike.. Laughing

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My understanding is it auto locks when the RR decides it needs to due to wheel slip/spin etc Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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That is my understanding as well.
It only locks when drive is lost to one wheel.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
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I guess that you're referring to the centre diff.

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Wasn't aware of any L322 fitted with a locking front diff...

Rear was an option, and they all have the centre diff lock, but front... Confused

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If the front diff locks you'll lose steering! Shocked

I'm not sure they have a locking diff in the front do they? Surprised 2009 TDV8 Vogue SE - Bonatti Grey

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There is no 'benefit' as such, the car is just showing you what it is doing, so the car is driving fine in the standard setting despite the snow. If traction is being lost then the padlock symbol changes to closed to show the differential being locked. You'd feel it too. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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It's all great stuff but absolutely useless if a load of jacknifed cars and lorries in front and behind you are blocking the road Rolling Eyes 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE
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The display doesn't tell the whole story. If you monitor the locking % using an IIDtool then you will see that the centre and rear e-diff, if fitted, are often pre-loaded to varying degrees even when no special program is in use yet not loaded high enough to trigger the locked symbol. The locked symbol only shows once a threshold has been reached and when shown, doesn't mean that the diff is effectively locked solid. As I've churned through mud, once the e-diff lock symbol shows, the locking % can reduce to well below the threshold yet the lock symbol stays on, only going off if the diff remains below the threshold for an extended time.

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As stated previously with a front diff locked you get real lousy steering , when competing (in 90) I usually run centre and rear locked and leave the front free unless I know I'm going to need it , it's then ulocked as soon as possible as you've got Censored all turning ability with everything locked up , (many years ago on a Bulldog someone I know ended up upside down in a ditch from locking his front diff and going straight on ).

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Mark.abersoch wrote:
If the front diff locks you'll lose steering! Shocked

I'm not sure they have a locking diff in the front do they? Surprised


Torsen diff locks can be used on steering axles without steering lose and are fully automatic.

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