Has anyone fitted a 13 pin tow plug to their FF?

I’ve just removed the two 7 pin plugs and have attempted to fit a 13 pin. However on pin 9 there is meant to be an orange wire (permanent live I think) but I can’t see any orange wires in the loom.

I’ve got as far as pin 8 (pink) and I have 4 wires left.
White/red
Yellow/brown
White
White with lettering on it.

So that’s only 12 wires for a 13 pin plug.
Can anyone help?

It looks like the 12N maps exactly to the same numbers of the 13 pin, only when you get to the 12N do things start to get a bit iffy!

Does this help: -

http://wellread.me/12n-12s-wiring-diagram....de-12n-12s Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

Actually here's the cross map: -

https://caravanchronicles.files.wordpress....k-list.jpg Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

That’s the same wiring diagram I’ve been working to except for pins 9 to 13 are different colours to what’s in my loom

Pin 4 from 12S (Green) to Pin 9/13 (should be orange) Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

The only thing I'd be worried about is the gauge of the wires you have from your loom -- a lot of the wires you're dealing with from now on in should be a thicker gauge! Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

I’ve only got the one green wire and I’ve fitted that to pin 4 on the 13 pin plug as per the diagram above.

This is what’s left.

I take it you have removed the previous 7 pin sockets without a note of what was connected to each pin?

If not it should just be a matter of matching pin to pin whatever the wire colour is..

Yes, sorry I see the dilemma now, sorry assumed you knew the original pin locations  Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

for the tin tent there is nothing which needs a perm feed from the car afaik. Fridge and charger will be 12v switched. so if that is all you have....... There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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4 is all that is required, beyond the pink already done -- but that's me assuming they map colour for colour -- which I'm not sure they do -- I was working pin to pin if you see what I mean!

The four you have left should be +ve, plus it's earth, and switched +ve plus it's earth!

Guessing I'd go with the whites being earth................ Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

It’s a two year old Swift with the LED tail lights. Not all cars work with them and mine is one of them. The LED indicators flash rapidly and in answer to this, Swift retrofit a module to the caravan. However there are several different types of module depending on what kind of car you have. They couldn’t test my FF as there was no live present which I’m told is pin 9 (orange).

And no I didnt make a note of the old plug as I didn’t realise it would be cross referenced to the new one in terms of pin numbers . Learn something every day!

Try this, my electrics had been on fire!

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic48429.html

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2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

Bushy30 wrote:

4 is all that is required, beyond the pink already done -- but that's me assuming they map colour for colour -- which I'm not sure they do -- I was working pin to pin if you see what I mean!

The four you have left should be +ve, plus it's earth, and switched +ve plus it's earth!

Guessing I'd go with the whites being earth................