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frikkadel



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How to use the auto in traffic

I have read on another thread that the L322 GM box heats up quite a bit.
So i have just got my 2003 vogue.
I had to drive in traffic today. What is the best way to drive in slow and stop start traffic.
To prevent the TC from slipping too much is it best to use the sport and manual mode?
Does this lock the TC more effectively?

Post #396197 15th Jul 2016 12:03pm
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RP123



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Scotland 2006 Range Rover HSE Td6 Bonatti Grey

Hi, Personally I prefer to put it in neutral when stationary , the gearbox locks up at 55 mph , generally I let the gearbox do it's own thing, but if I'm driving on the flat at @ 50mph I do put it into manual and get the box locked up.

First thing I did with mine was to have oil flush done and a new filter. These gearboxes are know for their chocolate internals , so keeping the oil fresh and cool is good.

Post #396205 15th Jul 2016 12:34pm
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frikkadel



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Yup
its booked for a gearbox flush next week.
The gear changes are so smooth you cant feel them.
If you are in stop start traffic which i am about to go in again, would you put the car in manual mode? Is it a good idea to shift between first and second?

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RP123



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Scotland 2006 Range Rover HSE Td6 Bonatti Grey

I think that the torque converter lock up is available in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears. I let it do it's own changes in traffic , just 'force' the lock up if I'm traveling at just under the 55mph lock up for any length of time. For normal use leave in D and if stationary for any time, slip it into neutral. Some folk recommend leaving in D when stationary , but for my personal preference it feels better if it's in N rather than slipping/straining in D whist waiting for traffic.

Cheers

Simon

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RR2008HSE



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Canada 2008 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

I generally leave it in D. Once it's nicely warmed up, I'll go for N at traffic lights. I sometimes will slide it over to S to prep for a quick overtake. They're nice transmissions and seem good at knowing what gear to be in when working properly .

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Don't know about these later boxes but the old three speed in the Classic didn't drive the oil pump when in neutral, so putting it in neutral when stationary used to heat up and damage the box as the oil wasn't pumping around it and the cooler...

Anyone know how these later ones work...??

Personally I never knock it into neutral, I leave it in D all the time and it seems happy enough.... Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Rosco



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Baltic Blue

I have mine in D most of the time, unlike Pete, sometimes it is in R and sometimes in P dont know how he gets out of a parking space Rolling with laughter to answer OP, have always left in D when going forward and no issues yet Thumbs Up

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Rosco wrote:
dont know how he gets out of a parking space


With these bumpers I don't need R to get anywhere.....!!!!! Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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GraemeC



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zermatt Silver

I am sure there was a huge thread on this where RRPhil's opinion was leaving in D would not damage the box in any way.

After that, the general consus seemed to be that shifting to N each time you came to a stop would likely cause more damage by prematurely wearing a particular bearing (the name of which escapes me at present)

Whish I could find the thread..... 2007 Zermatt Silver TDV8 Vogue SE - now sold but was a great car!

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Joe90



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Handbook recommends moving to N when stopped in traffic, and applying the handbrake, much the same as you would do with a manual. Having been on a safer driving course a while back I have got into the habit of doing this.

Good practice and good driving to go N and handbrake on.

What I do enjoy is watching folks with manuals failing on this in traffic and on hills, holding the car on the clutch, or stalling, or rolling back (sometimes 2/3 feet!) before taking up drive (no handbrake used!) Guess it doesn't help with newer stop start models and the electronic handbrake!

Going OT a bit:
Was wondering, can the driver turn off the stop / start system when in traffic - when it is hot and you have the air con on? otherwise no aircon? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
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Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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Haylands



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So the consensus is, do what you like it doesn't make much difference... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Tim, all the ones I've been in you can turn it off... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Joe90



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@ Pete Thumbs Up .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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Busa1400



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

I always leave it in drive 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE

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Weejock



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Leave it in Drive and handbrake for me, no different to it running slowly in drive except you've stopped it with handbrake.
I would rather do that than wear out the XYZ/park inhibit switch or selector keep putting it into neutral (already been replaced once). The switch is more likely to wear than anything in the transmission!

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DannyH



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England 2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

eh? so you're leaving it in drive, then using the handbrake to stop it moving? Or have I read that wrong? Dan

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