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Phil.



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FFRR's Being Regularly Stolen?

First I have heard of this. Any other examples?

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I believe they use surveillance to watch you & then record the info of your key when you open it then program a blank key that has been cut to your reg/vin & away they go. It was on TV some weeks ago about it. Scary but it seems as fast as manufacturers come up with something the underworld found a way around it Worse things happen at sea! Well thats what swmbo said when WRENS came to sea!!!

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^ not sure why they would have to break a window if they had a programmed key? But yes, I saw a programme about bmw's being stolen using the method you described.... Scumbags. Previously..
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11 plate would not have a (key type) key?? Breaking the window would not open the door either?

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bmw's with keyless entry were being stolen not long back ,maybe this particular range had the same keyless entry ..i'm not sure if LR have that option on the range though..

or it could be that chappy just left the keys in the ignition and is trying to cover his tracks with a made up story.. ... - .- -.




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There's something not quite right about the story.
The car must have had a tracker on it.

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Just after I bought my M3 in 2011 there was a series of M3's, 1M's and X5's being stolen whereby the thief would smash a front window of securely parked car allowing them access the vehicles OBD port. This action did not activate the vehicles alarm as the intrusion into the vehicle was kept within a few inches of the door card. The thief would then program a new key and the vehicle could then be accessed and driven away. It took BMW quite a while before they brought a security update out.

As a result Insurance premiums went sky high on new X5's and M3's without some form of tracker installed.

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It would take some doing to smash any window and not set off the alarm???

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It would take some doing to smash any window and not set off the alarm???


Well it didn't (doesn't?) due to a security oversight. I suppose as long as the action isn't enough to set the motion sensor off then then the alarm/immobiliser won't activate. Then with the system not monitoring six or so inches from the door panel the alarm would still not be activated when reaching in to access the OBD. Once this is accessed the alarm is/was? pretty much useless.

Loads of discussions on BMW forums and PH about it. One guy even posted his CCTV footage when his 1M was stolen.

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Wow - thats scary. This is a subject close to my heart - My mate had his M3 stolen from underneath his bedroom window without so much as a peep. Police said they must have had a key - big suspicious as he had just had it serviced a couple of days before and his tracker did not go off. It was never recovered Sad

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I know, especially when blockers/jammers can be bought so cheaply, do you go for a VHF, GPS or GSM based tracker? each one have their drawbacks and can be blocked.

JLR will always have a stolen market, it's just a matter of how they steal them. After worrying at first I came to the conclusion I would rather have it disappear off the drive overnight than have them break in to the house in order to find and steal the keys.

Always best to check with your insurer too, I had a policy (Aviva I think) which excluded theft if the keys were used to steal the car other than in certain circumstances. I think this was due to the number of people having the keys stolen from inside their house by the hook and cane method. This made me think I should mention that I only had one original key and one spare to my insurers so that I would not be in a position if I claimed they would expecting to see two sets and a spare back

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Audis and bmw's are stolen this way. Audi deny it point blank took someone I know aged to prove to the insurers he hadn't left the key in his q7. Scumbag thief's and insurers.

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surely having the two keys in your possession is proof enough to the insurers... ... - .- -.




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The program I watched the Police showed a lot of the cars that had been stolen & cloned & it did include a few RRs as well as BMWs etc. given the fact our cars have a large amount of BMW parts to me it stands to reason they probably suffer from the same weakness in the anti theft systems. Only a thought though! Worse things happen at sea! Well thats what swmbo said when WRENS came to sea!!!

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stan wrote:
surely having the two keys in your possession is proof enough to the insurers...


Yes you'd think so but the insurer was an offshore based call centre. It took 9 months proving it. Utter Censored take.

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