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Dipped & Main beam H7 55W upgrade bulb

For those with non xenon dipped beam headlights and for all full/ main beam, what about these as an upgrade bulb?

" H7 Ring XENON Ultima (55W) – £19.95/pair + £2.95 delivery)
• A WORLD FIRST - 120% More light
• 12v 55w H7 P14.5s Xenon Ultima Halogen Headlamp
• 100% Xenon Gas
• Longer beam pattern for greater light output "

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-ring-xenon-ulti...-pair.html

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Same bulb here I think but a fair bit cheaper at £13-55 delivered.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ring-Xenon-Ultim...4897.l4275

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Thanks to excellent research and assistance from Stan and Prop, so far, here is the progress made on ordering simple plug and play upgrade bulbs that should hopefully compliment the original and existing LR xenon headlight bulb and that should require no wiring, resistors and which should cause no damage or offer no errors:

Ordered:

Sidelight bulbs. LED @ £9.95/pair (T10 501 W5W Can-Bus LED 10-SMD 5630 bulbs):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181128879662?ssP...5097208024

Full beam bulbs H7 55W @ £13.55/pair (Halogen/ xenon):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ring-Xenon-Ultim...5088469981

Considering ordering, subject to being satisfied they won't melt the light housing:

Cornering Lamp bulbs H8 35watt. LED @ £32.95/ pair (H8 PGJ19-1 Xenon WHITE 29W HIGH POWER CREE LED):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310670163821?ssP...5091237216

Indicator bulbs. LED @ £19.95/ pair (Q5+12SMD=7W Brake/Signal Light 150° LED Bulbs Amber/Yellow PY21W):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320777100341?ssP...5091750295

Any thoughts welcome.

Thanks

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Re the cornering lights you are thinking about, looking at the specs the running temperature is 40c to 85c so should pose no issue in terms of running hotter than the halogen bulbs. My only concern would be how the led replacements react to the soft start and soft switch off that the cornering bulbs use.

As to brightness of these from what I can see the standard 35watt halogen bulb gives approx 700 lumen and the led the bulb your looking at is rated at 800 lumen so should be a tad brighter too.

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Hope you don't mind me piggy backing on this thread but I've searched and don't seem to be able to find the answer, has anyone come up with a replacement led for the h11 fog lamp figment on a 2011 vogue which gives no bulb failure warnings and a nice white light? Agueroooooooooo. 93-20
I swear you will never see anything like this ever again....watch it..drink it in.

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something like this paul?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190940695744?ssP...1438.l2649




not sure re the errors but theres loads on ebay.. ... - .- -.




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Pfaaz, your easiest and cheapest option is to fit something like these to replace your standard H11 halogen bulbs with the brighter and whiter halogens as below.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OSRAM-NIGHT-BREA...35cce1e44d

Alternatively you could replace the current bulbs with a H11 HID kit such as the one below.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CANBUS-Xenon-HID...563ff23290

Finally the most expensive and complex option is to go down the LED route. Unfortunately to get an equivalent light output to the existing 55watt halogen bulbs in an LED bulb is going to require a very high power LED bulb unit which will most likely need cooling. The kit below maybe suitable, but not sure how the cooling system will function with the bulbs in terms of weather proofing etc. It maybe possible that the fog light unit on your car will be sufficiently exposed so that air cooling will suffice.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...ink:top:en


These are just ideas, I have not seen or tried any of these myself, The 1st option will certainly pose no issues as its almost a like for like replacement just whiter and brighter bulb, maybe someone else could comment if they have tried anything similar. But I suspect you might be the on your own if you try the LED or HID options.

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Stan, not sure the bulb you have linked to will give anywhere near the same light output as a 55watt halogen bulb.
Also they do not appear to be CANBUS compatible either.

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and now comes the debate whether fogs need to have forward beam or just be bright.. Laughing

in all my years of driving i dont think i've put my front fogs on more than a few times as i feel my headlights are enough for others to see me...many cars dont even have front fog lights so does that strengthen my case , may
be ..someone will bound to say that front fogs are essential..

you're correct Prop the ones i've shown probably are not error free but i'm fortunate to have an iidtool to switch off the errors..and my fogs are drls so its all academic for me.. ... - .- -.




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Quote Prop "Re the cornering lights you are thinking about, looking at the specs... should pose no issue in terms of running hotter than the halogen bulbs. My only concern would be how the led replacements react to the soft start and soft switch off that the cornering bulbs use..."

@ Prop - had an email from the seller of these cornering bulbs regarding your queries and the reply was:

"Less hot like standard bulbs, direct replacement with soft start and soft switch off"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310670163821?ssP...5091237216

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pld118, all sounds good then. Just seems odd that the spec states operating voltage of 9volts to 32volts. This would leave me to believe it switches to full brightness with the voltage at anything between these ranges. So my concern would be what happens when you feed it 6volts for instance. does it flicker or anything and then just light up immediately to full brightness bypassing the soft start etc of the halogen.

I don't know the full operation etc of the cornering lights but I do know they start up and turn of slowly, like over a second or 2. So I am guessing that means the voltage will be ramped up from about 6volts to 12volts over this period. But if the seller is stating they will work correctly then I guess you can always return them if your not satisfied, so you don't have much to loose.

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LED indicator bulbs or Silver Vision halogen?

The more I think about it and having seen previous observations on the forum about LED indicator bulbs, not too sure about proceeding with an LED indicator bulb upgrade on basis that thoughts seem to be that standard indicator bulbs are bright enough and from a safety perspective perhaps then they should not be meddled with.

Has anyone any thoughts on or used something like these Phillips Silver Vision indicator bulbs @ £12.95/pair. They are supposed to look silver when not on but surely they will still be housed within an orange reflector surround so I can't see how the orange look will go?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/philips-indicator-bulbs

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those bulbs are the equivalent to the OE osram ones and i dont think they will be any brighter Ryan..
i assume its the 'brake light masking the rear indicator' you want to solve..

i've ordered a pair of these for the rear ,i know they wont be as bright as the cree type but they should be 'sharper' than the OE bulbs,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271088753872?ssP...1438.l2648

 ... - .- -.




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Stan,

Whilst really drawn to the £19.95 'favoured' of Prop's 2 interesting find LED indicators bulbs, I was wary as they are made in China and have read comments about some bulbs made there being cheap rubbish and the like. At £19.95 not give aways but not overly expensive either.

Have you left your headlight unit indicator bulbs and side repeaters on standard bulbs... If so, will it not look odd with LED bulbs on the rear indicators and halogen ones at the front, given the front and rears are activated at the same time?

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Quote Prop "... Just seems odd that the spec states operating voltage of 9volts to 32volts. This would leave me to believe it switches to full brightness with the voltage at anything between these ranges. So my concern would be what happens when you feed it 6volts for instance. does it flicker or anything and then just light up immediately to full brightness bypassing the soft start etc... I do know they start up and turn of slowly... So I am guessing that means the voltage will be ramped up from about 6volts to 12volts over this period. But if the seller is stating they will work correctly... "

Well Prop, I've put your thoughts to them exactly as above and their reply this morning is:
"Just like we said before this bulbs working perfect with cornering lights, we fit it to many cars like Audi, Mercedes etc. and work great"

I'll order a set today.

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